@stux LOL its literally noon! :)
Notices by 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org), page 25
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 10:54:20 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 -
🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 10:51:29 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 Depends, sometimes marketing ads push people to buy things they dont need. Othertimes it makes them aware of products that suit a need, particularly when the product was unknown to the buyer.
With that said I never claimed all capitalistic actions will always generate wealth. Obviously an irresponsible buyer who buys things they dont need will generate far less wealth than a responsible buyer who buys the things they do.
The point is only that wealth is not fixed, or anywhere near fixed. It is constantly being generated in large portions and thus any model that assumes one class deprives another of wealth simply based on the fact that they have a lot of wealth is, fundementally, flawed as an ideology. Which seems to be the basis of much of your argument.
Furthermore I did not quote anyone, not Adam Smith, nor am I representing any one model. There are however hundreds of models out there, all of which rely on the same principles I am describing. In fact there isnt a single model that has been demonstrated to be accurate that doesnt accept the truths I've asserted.
Smith just happens to be one among many people who have tried to describe the same thing many others have.
As for building your own smartphone. Yes, there are many small time people who have sourced out their own parts and built their own smartphone (funded initial with their own money they earned through wages) and now represents an actual phone for sale. Or in rarer cases ony for personal use. In most cases this results in a new company with a new product that hopefully offers something new to the market that wasnt there before, and thus **generating** wealth as a result.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 10:43:57 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 @mngrif yup :)
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 10:39:23 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 @mngrif I'll give you one guess whether this guy is management or IT :)
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 10:05:37 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 "We should widgetize everything that is widgetizable." -- An actual coworker
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 09:35:04 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 @magvids Very happy to hear that. Its great seeing your posts here!
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magvids (magvids@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2020 23:50:34 UTC magvids So far qoto.org is the best instance I have used.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 09:34:24 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 @magvids It may seem irrational, and in many ways it is contrary to intuition. But no denying the fact that its real and true, we have seen it proven countless times in the world around us.
We dont get to pick what is true based on what satisfies our sense of rationality. If it is observed to be true, then it is true.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 09:30:38 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 @igeljaeger Some are. Back when it first started and it had more attention there were at least two people who used QOTO as a censor-free place to post things related to the protest.
I havent seen them in a while though, I hope they are safe.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 09:28:25 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 If your going to call that technology then literally everything is technology. At that point the phrase becomes useless.
I think it should be obvious by now that what generates wealth is any trade of goods or services where both parties get what they need.
Wether its cows and cow feed or labour as a cashier traded to buy lumber I can use to build an addition to my home. Its all the same, capitalism generates wealth so long as both parties are engaging in capitalism with their own self-interests in mind in the trade.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 09:12:44 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 The idea that wealth is only generated through technological advancement is patently false.
Aside from the fact that we know wealth generation occurred historically prior to technology being a major factor it only takes a bit of common sense to understand why.
If I own a bunch of cows and have no feed, and someone else has a bunch of feed and has no cows. If we do nothing my cows will die and your feed will rot. Leaving us with less wealth than we have now. However if I trade you some cows for some feed now we both have well fed cows. Our cows will have babies and grow fat and as such we will collectively have more wealth than we did previously.
So it should be clear that anytime there is trade that is fueled by each parties personal needs that that will generate wealth, this has nothing to do with technology.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 09:10:08 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 The idea that walth is only generated through technological advancement is patently false.
Aside from the fact that we know wealth generation occured historically prior to technology being a major factor it only takes a bit of common sense to understand why.
If I own a bunch of cows and have no feed, and someone else has a bunch of feed and has no cows. If we do nothing my cows will die and your feed will rot. Leaving us with less wealth than we have now. However if I trade you some cows for some feed now we both have well fed cows. Our cows will have babies and grow fat and as such we will collectively have more wealth than we did previously.
So it should be clear that anytime there is trade that is fueled by each parties personal needs that that will generate wealth, this has nothing to do with technology.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 08:47:24 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 @modrobert No problem. When it went down it was made public on our timeline. Literally one of only two instances we have ever needed to suspend an account or server from federation.
The link I provided to the forumn post goes into detail and links the thread where everything went down.
We have a transparency policy on our moderator actions so anything more severe than advertising/spamming is publicly detailed on the forumn for our users to respond to and review.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 08:44:51 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 @ramskulls Would our current logo be an OK reference image and just make it into a fun cartoonized version?
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 08:44:01 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 The y-axis is more likely a representation of each classes wealth not the number of people in that class.
The failing in your logic is the idea that for one class to have money they must drain it from the poor. Thats not how money works, it isnt a pie where one person having more means another person must have less. It isnt a zero sum game.
Wealth is generated, as well as acquired. So a person can be rich and have most of their wealth generated without depriving any class of any portion of money to do so.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 08:33:22 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 You should inderstand why this user was banned. He requested we ban a user on our server. The admin team refused as the user was determined to not break our rules.
We then engaged him for over a week going around in circles where he continually demanded this user be suspended and we refused. We then told him the matter was losed and asked not to be contacted.
He ten proceeded to tag me and the admins, which has been going on for half a year now for a dozen different accounts. He constantly opens new accounts and tags me and our users despite being asked not to.
This violates our anti-harassment and ban evasion rules thus it has gotten him and any server he runs banned from our network.
This is his latest account he opened to continue his harassment. We will now be banning this account as well.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 08:33:06 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 You should inderstand why this user was banned. He requested we ban a user on our server. The admin team refused as the user was determined to not break our rules.
We then engaged him for over a week going around in circles where he continually demanded this user be suspended and we refused. We then told him the matter was losed and asked not to be contacted.
He ten proceeded to tag me and the admins, which has been going on for half a year now for a dozen different accounts. He constantly opens new accounts and tags me and our users despite being asked not to.
This violates our anti-harassment and ban evasion rules thus it has gotten him and any server he runs banned from our network.
This is his latest account he opened to continue his harassment. We will now be banning this account as well.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 08:26:15 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 @zlaxy
Its already documented in our forum and publicly viewable. You were asked not to contact me and now you've created yet another account and did it againhttps://discourse.qoto.org/t/report-375-ussr-win-and-zlax/73
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2020 07:59:06 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 @zlaxy
Its already documented in our forum and puclicly viewable. You were asked not to contact me and now youve created yet another account and did it again -
🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2020 23:30:24 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 My new favorite service for weather. Its ASCII based so you can either just go to it in a web browser or if you want to be really cool just do `curl wttr.in` in a console!