Notices by Sean O'Brien (diggity@mastodon.social)

@philippemargery @61 @Purism OWS has had a contentious relationship w/ FOSS devs who want alt. clients/forks of Signal that interop w/ OWS network

From the OWS perspective, it's important to keep the UI/UX consistent; alternative clients degrade the user experience for everyone on the network, and use expensive resources. Security and QC are impossible to verify for apps out of OWS control

The FOSS-y arguments are familiar, and include the fact that centralization is dangerous for freedom. 2/2

@philippemargery @61 @Purism Signal isn't "bad". In a nutshell:

OpenWhisperSystems / the devs behind Signal made the choice to centralize the service and build identity around the phone number system, instead of doing the federated / decentralized approach.

They did this consciously to encourage widespread adoption without the traditional difficulties associated with a decentralized, multiple-client approach.

That makes it different from approaches by Matrix.org, XMPP, and so on. 1/2

@aral @privacylab @mozilla @mozfestprivsec @exodus @fdroidorg I take a strong stance against Google apps+services, personally and professionally, and often at odds with other crypto/privacy trainers.

I did not bring up Mozilla Google funding, but I'm happy to do so if there's a next time. I did criticize #Mozfest for the trackers in the Guidebook app (see "The Elephant In The Room" slide).

I very much appreciate you keeping honesty in the privacy discussion. I try to do that too.

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@aral @privacylab @mozilla @mozfestprivsec Thanks Aral! There will be more as I talk about this topic often; I'm sure some will be recorded but the only one I know is my LibrePlanet 2018 talk.

I can assure you I don't hold back in regard to Google surveillance, in this presentation or others :) One of the slides has the @exodus stats showing Google services as the most pervasive trackers, followed by Facebook, and I recommend @fdroidorg over Google Play. etc. etc.

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