Bernie
Lots of neat #Rust cli tools on this thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/16g38gp/what_are_your_favorite_simple_open_source_tools/
I discovered Atuin (shell history browser similar to fzf), bottom (a fancy clone of top) and delta (augmented diff tool for git and more).
Bernie
I was already using these: fd (better find), rg (better grep), lsd (better ls), bat (better cat with syntax highlighting etc).
Bernie
@Tanuki On the contrary: they were greatly improved by the #GNU project in the 80s and 90s. The original UNIX tools only had a handful of single-letter options, no inline help, no color output...
Tanuki
@codewiz makes one wonder why these original CLI tools had to harden like concrete in the 1970s and couldn't have just been improved themselves
Bernie
Not to mention #GCC, a marvel of compiler design, with multiple language frontends, portable to dozens of host platforms and targeting hundreds of architecture variants 🤩
Bernie
Though the GNU project nowadays appears to be mostly fossilized around C and old UNIX-era standards.
Innovation in the terminal environment happens within the Rust and Go communities.
They build many nice tools, but they still lack the level of integration and coordination that got the GNU project at the core of every Linux and many non-Linux systems with glibc, bash, coreutils, gcc, binutils, make...
Bernie
@Tanuki You make a fair point.
Perhaps it's because the most creative people are often those who are willing to explore new technology.
The price we pay for the author's choice is an lsd binary which is 3.2MB or just 900kB if you use exa, but with deps on libssl, libgit2 and http-parser.
The original GNU ls is 138kB with its only dynamic deps being libc and libcap.
Perhaps one day the Rust community will slow down and embrace shared libraries a bit more 🙂
Tanuki
@codewiz yes using some of the best of those communities' CLI tools makes me think ah yes 🙌🏻 these are huge improvements (but did they require new programming languages? Or just the willingness to reinvent)
Tanuki
@codewiz GCC is an interesting example of a core utility with potential to actually be superseded as the default (now with clang), whereas I feel like everyone has made a better bash or top every few years for decades but since they never become default it's always a choice for weirdos (with the consequence being the occasional friction when everyone else expects a default environment) 😊
Bernie
@Tanuki I loved bashtop (100% shell) -> bpytop (Python) -> btop (C++):
https://github.com/aristocratos/btop
Bernie
@Tanuki These utilities are all small side projects for a single developer. Writing a modern shell is barely within reach, and fully replacing #GCC would require a huge investment, even if you start from #LLVM.
I heard that Google and Apple have pulled resources from #Clang a few years ago, and that's why #Cpp support seems to be falling behind GCC:
https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/compiler_support/23
Bernie
@ellie @hds Oh, you're the author? Thank you for building Atuin! ❤️
I still haven't invested the time to configure it, but I would like to make the UI take only a few lines at the bottom, like fzf does. So I can still see the previous commands and their outputs. Is it doable?
Ellie Huxtable
@hds @codewiz ohhhh that explains the traffic :O
I was wondering!
Hayden Stainsby
Hayden Stainsby
@ellie @codewiz yeah. I wanted this as well but hadn’t got around to looking for the config. (-;
Ellie Huxtable
@codewiz @hds I am (with a bunch of contributors), glad you like it! <3
totally doable! try something like
```
inline_height = 15
```
in `~/.config/atuin/config.toml`
You may want to adjust that value a bit
Bernie
Bernie
@hds @ellie Haha, we've become lazy users spoiled by too many great tools!
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