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  1. Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 10:31:28 UTC Bob Mottram Bob Mottram
    One down https://blog.freedombone.net/one-down
    In conversation Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 10:31:28 UTC from social.freedombone.net permalink

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    • Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 11:04:14 UTC Bob Mottram Bob Mottram
      • Masoud Abkenar
      @masoud it might be a possibility to consider. The images would need to be kept separate from the data/keys, so it would be similar to running from a USB drive. Freedombone already uses btrfs, which I think is suited to that type of image update.
      In conversation Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 11:04:14 UTC permalink
    • Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 11:15:47 UTC Bob Mottram Bob Mottram
      • Masoud Abkenar
      @masoud My only concern with Ubuntu would be blobs. I don't particularly trust Canonical not to include proprietary stuff which can't easily be extracted.
      In conversation Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 11:15:47 UTC permalink
    • Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 11:22:17 UTC Bob Mottram Bob Mottram
      • Dr. Edward Morbius :x:
      @dredmorbius The hardware cost isn't a big factor. I expect hardware costs for SBCs to remain similar or not fall by much. At the same time they will probably get more CPU cores and better energy performance.

      Security and maintenance aren't big costs. Debian can patch itself and the system can be easily administered from the control panel. The amount of time I spend on administration is very small.

      Full P2P is possible with current technology (see https://freedombone.net/mesh.html) but moving away from client/server will be like trying to steer the Titanic. I don't expect things to change quickly.
      In conversation Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 11:22:17 UTC permalink

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    • Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 11:35:41 UTC Bob Mottram Bob Mottram
      • Dr. Edward Morbius :x:
      @dredmorbius The amount of maintenance skill needed on Freedombone is not very large.

      • Add/remove user
      • Back up data
      • Restore data (with individual apps selectable)
      • Blocking controls
      • Add/remove a GPG key
      There are other options, but it's not tremendously complex or significantly greater than what you would find on an internet router.
      In conversation Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 11:35:41 UTC permalink
    • Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 11:43:37 UTC Bob Mottram Bob Mottram
      • Dr. Edward Morbius :x:
      @dredmorbius do 5-8% of the general population have internet routers or a smartphone? It's not much more complicated than that.
      In conversation Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 11:43:37 UTC permalink
    • Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 12:14:05 UTC Bob Mottram Bob Mottram
      • Dr. Edward Morbius :x:
      @dredmorbius yes those things are often insecure, but that doesn't mean a home server has to be the same.
      In conversation Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 12:14:05 UTC permalink
    • Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 12:26:48 UTC Bob Mottram Bob Mottram
      • Dr. Edward Morbius :x:
      @dredmorbius that's wonderful, but not an argument against home servers. Nearly all of those routers would have been running proprietary software complete with the entourage of badness which goes along with that.
      In conversation Saturday, 22-Apr-2017 12:26:48 UTC permalink

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