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1. Aurochs (auroch@quitter.es)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2017 13:41:56 UTC Aurochs
   I am sure animalists and !vegan will have a problem with this too. Moreover when they are responsible for the release of thousands of american minks from farms. https://quitter.es/url/1128294
   • Alberto (moshpirit@quitter.es)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2017 14:13:58 UTC Alberto

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     @auroch what's the option that causes less suffering?
   • Alberto (moshpirit@quitter.es)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2017 14:17:37 UTC Alberto

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     @auroch ps: you are not in the group, so !vegan is not noticing your post
   • Aurochs (auroch@quitter.es)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2017 15:37:19 UTC Aurochs

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     • Alberto
     @moshpirit That's ok
   • Aurochs (auroch@quitter.es)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2017 15:37:47 UTC Aurochs

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     • Alberto
     @moshpirit Exactly!
   • Alberto (moshpirit@quitter.es)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2017 17:14:26 UTC Alberto

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     @auroch why isn't it vegan then? haha
   • Aurochs (auroch@quitter.es)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2017 17:35:07 UTC Aurochs

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     • Alberto
     @moshpirit To protect, and to be able to reintroduce the european mink, we need to kill all the invasive american minks.
   • Alberto (moshpirit@quitter.es)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2017 17:48:25 UTC Alberto

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     @auroch but this is no problem if less animals are going to suffer
   • Aurochs (auroch@quitter.es)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2017 18:20:29 UTC Aurochs

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     • Alberto
     @moshpirit Therefore, should we kill all predatory species?
   • Alberto (moshpirit@quitter.es)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2017 18:28:13 UTC Alberto

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     @auroch no because the herbivores would overpopulate and die anyway by starvation, probably while destroying the ecosystem
     Juanjo Faico and Aurochs like this.
   • Aurochs (auroch@quitter.es)'s status on Monday, 21-Aug-2017 17:56:54 UTC Aurochs

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     @moshpirit But what if one species of invasive carnivore has replaced almost completely another species of carnivore? The solution would be to kill the invasive carnivores and captive breed the endangered species of carnivore to further release them to the wild (by the way, feeding them meat).
     Modélico likes this.
   • Alberto (moshpirit@quitter.es)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2017 14:19:44 UTC Alberto

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     @auroch If the invasive carnivore is not a problem for the population of herbivores I wouldn't care which carnivore eats them. In this situation killing this new species would be a stupidity. I don't care about species themselves, I care about the individuals who compose them, which are the ones who suffer. Species is just an abstract thing to designate these individuals.
   • Aurochs (auroch@quitter.es)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2017 14:22:36 UTC Aurochs

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     • Alberto
     @moshpirit And that exactly is why animalism and veganism is against ecology, conservation and environmentalism.
   • Alberto (moshpirit@quitter.es)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Aug-2017 17:55:19 UTC Alberto

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     @auroch why? You can't care about both things? There's more: doesn't caring about the environment imply saving more animals and therefore making less suffering (which is veganism goal)?