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1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 03-Feb-2018 09:06:26 UTC Danyl Strype
   #DDG blog has published a list of replacements for #Google services, some free code
   https://spreadprivacy.com/how-to-remove-google/
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 03-Feb-2018 09:08:43 UTC Danyl Strype

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     The only major fail is recommending #iThings over #Android. Out of the frying pan, into the blast furnace. What about #Replicant folks?
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Sunday, 04-Feb-2018 00:08:51 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola evidence please for the claim that #iOS is more "secure & privacy-aware" than #Android?
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Sunday, 04-Feb-2018 00:09:20 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola I suspect the one with at least a free code core would be better than a totally proprietary OS designed to enslave its users
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Sunday, 04-Feb-2018 00:13:41 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola also, how does a secure and privacy-respecting OS become "mainstream"? By being recommended, used, and the developers supported
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Sunday, 04-Feb-2018 23:44:52 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola publicly auditable source code may not be sufficient for security, but it's an essential prerequisite. Usability is a separate issue
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Sunday, 04-Feb-2018 23:48:12 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola also, don't confuse privacy with security. Even if iThings are private to anyone but Apple, that's still far from private
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Sunday, 04-Feb-2018 23:49:37 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola note that I'm not defending #Android device here. Any OS the user doesn't have root on is neither secure nor private, by definition
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2018 02:47:17 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola no, you can't, because you can never be sure proprietary source code presented for audit is the same as that used in production.
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2018 02:48:15 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola with free code you can compile from source and compare the resulting binaries to the production system
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2018 02:48:53 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola compile from the source in the public-facing repository that is
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2018 09:04:37 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola I didn't claim that every piece of free code is secure. I said public availability of source is *necessary*, but not sufficient.
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2018 09:05:31 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola you can claim proprietary software is "successfully audited" all you like, but you are factually wrong, for reasons I just gave
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2018 09:06:36 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola who are these security auditors of proprietary software? Who pays them? How can they be held accountable if they report falsely?
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2018 09:07:57 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola security audits may be useful to a proprietary software owner, but they offer no useful guarantee to a proprietary software user
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 07-Feb-2018 09:10:58 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola finally, not formally audited != not secure. Publicly available code is being Informally audited all the time by hackers who use it
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Feb-2018 10:07:10 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola here's a better handheld for #DDG to recommend than iThings
     https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 21-Feb-2018 10:08:00 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola that's if privacy and security is the criteria, obviously the price of a #Librem 5 is at the higher end for a handheld
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2018 06:50:25 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola more productive that recommending a phone known to censor and spy on its users
     https://stallman.org/apple.html
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2018 06:55:57 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola the real problem with delivering a libre phone lies in coordinating demand with supply
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2018 06:56:15 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola see: https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2016/07/06/silent-circle-blackphone-losses-layoffs-geekphone-lawsuit/#6159c84c3b30
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2018 06:58:16 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola I think the solution could be consumer-owner #coops, who can be ready to bulk buy good libre hardware when it becomes available
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2018 13:21:39 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Nikola Plejić
     @nikola you keep claiming that iOS is better than Android in some way related to privacy and security. Haven't seen you give any reasons yet
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2018 13:38:01 UTC Danyl Strype

     • PennyForTheGuy
     • Nikola Plejić
     @therealpennyfortheguy @nikola would the same apply to someone with a 100% free code phone like a #Replicant or a #Purism #Librem 5?
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2018 14:23:50 UTC Danyl Strype

     • PennyForTheGuy
     • Nikola Plejić
     @therealpennyfortheguy @nikola ok, but humour me. If I came to your house with a #Replicant phone, would you make me leave it in the car?
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2018 14:24:17 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • PennyForTheGuy
     • Nikola Plejić
     @therealpennyfortheguy @nikola I guess what I'm asking is, is it the proprietary spyware on the devices your distrust, or the cell network
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2018 14:28:06 UTC Danyl Strype

     • PennyForTheGuy
     • Nikola Plejić
     @therealpennyfortheguy @nikola what about laptops?
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 22-Feb-2018 16:22:58 UTC Danyl Strype

     • PennyForTheGuy
     @therealpennyfortheguy have you seen 'Better Call Saul'? Making people leave their phone outside reminds me of Chuck ;) Fair enough though