Conversation

Notices

1. ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2018 21:18:18 UTC ghostDancer

   • ar.al🌻
   • dtluna 🏴
   @dtluna the political class are only tools used by corps, the put the human face to inhuman beings  @aral
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2018 23:41:08 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna corporations are entities with one idea: profit. For that they have bought politicians, not all, not everywhere, to get more of it.
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Feb-2018 23:55:06 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna state should be the one protecting us, but is run by politicians. No state is as bad a too much state. There must be some control.
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 00:19:19 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna control should be also for the state otherwise can turn into the farce we have right now. Watchmen should be watched. Not 1984 style
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 00:52:36 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna i know that but humans are not perfect that's why anarchism doesn't scale. The idea is perfect, implementation impossible IMHO
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 03:21:02 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna someone has to enforce the laws/rules so no one can abuse, at the same time it needs control so he/she won't abuse. You propose?
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 04:02:44 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna so no roads, no trains, no internet, no fire dpt. Stone age. BTW natural law doesn't exist, law is a construct created by humans.
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 04:25:38 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna just two questions: you realize that the tech you are using right now was developed with public funds?
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 04:26:21 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna who determines property in your libertarian fantasy land?
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 04:35:53 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna the effort, people and expenses needed to develop all that technology could not have been developed "naturally".
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 04:37:11 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna if someone wants to take your property, and someone willl, what can stop him
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 04:47:04 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna active side of the agression says the libertarian that tells i come from a gulag because i don't think that your utopia is factible
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 04:47:29 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna still don't know what natural law is cause you don't explain it
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 04:49:45 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna someone will always have more guns and more force, look at news, always wins the stronger not the justice
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 05:05:30 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna guns are not enough to defend your property either then,we're talking that always there's someone more powerful
     御園はくい likes this.
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 05:14:39 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna don't get me wrong anarchism /libertarian are nice ideas i just think they are utopian and that can only work in small communities
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 05:40:08 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna Means it can't be done. In real life there are criminals that's why utopias can't be brought to life. It's a pity, would love it
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 05:41:55 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna so force serves to protect your property but not to take it from you. Interesting delusion.
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 06:10:36 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna nothing. But you said you can use force for it but deny the possibility of someone using more force against you.
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 06:46:29 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna sorry i have to go. We can continue this other time if you want. I'd love to believe anarchy is posible and to live in that society.
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 06:47:34 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna you have a nice dream for a better society, keep fighting for it even if some pessimist oldman like me tells you is not possible.
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 06:48:18 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna we still need dreamers to get the better of ourselves.
   • ghostDancer (ghostdancer@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 15-Feb-2018 07:02:54 UTC ghostDancer

     • dtluna 🏴
     @dtluna sorry i have to go. We can continue this other time if you want. I'd love to believe anarchy is posible and to live in that society.