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1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:16:31 UTC Danyl Strype

   • Râu Cao ⚡
   • h
   @raucao the problem with those graphs is that all the important details are lost in the overall trend line. @h
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:19:35 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Râu Cao ⚡
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     @raucao @h how do the trend lines for "capitalist" countries compare against those for countries with hybrid political-economic systems?
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:21:22 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Râu Cao ⚡
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     @raucao @h within "capitalist" countries, how do the trend lines for pre-WW2 compare to WW2 to 1980, or either to 1980-now (neo-liberalism)
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:22:45 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @raucao @h the quote indicate that every country that has ever existed is actually a hybrid of capitalist and non-capitalist aspects
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:23:53 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @raucao @h those we tend to think of as "capitalist" are usually those that combine strong property rights with multi-party elections
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:24:52 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @raucao I could do your research for you, but for now I'm just pointing out your propaganda graphs don't prove anything
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:27:39 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Râu Cao ⚡
     @raucao China has much less poverty than the US, despite having a much larger population and fewer resources. What's your point?
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:31:54 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Râu Cao ⚡
     @raucao neo-liberalism is a catch-all term for things like the large scale privatization of public commons, by corporate-captured states
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:33:16 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Râu Cao ⚡
     @raucao moving things like health care or education out of public ownership, so private owners can extract wealth, increases inequality
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:34:33 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Râu Cao ⚡
     @raucao how could they not? Where is that extracted wealth 1% get from owning former public commons coming from, if not from everyone else?
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:35:57 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Râu Cao ⚡
     @raucao I have, and I think if you did the same, you might be surprised
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:39:36 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @raucao they didn't introduce "capitalism". The vast majority of everything is still publicly owned. That's why poverty is reducing
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:40:48 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Râu Cao ⚡
     @raucao talk about"corporatocracy" avoids the point that privatization (increased private ownership) increases ineqality > increases poverty
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:42:48 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @raucao There is no private property in real estate in China, only long term leases. All three telecoms companies are publicly-owned.
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:43:34 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Râu Cao ⚡
     @raucao please explain in what part of the Chinese economy has private property increased (your definition of "capitalism")
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:44:59 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Râu Cao ⚡
     @raucao but why do governments do hat? Because they are captured by the owners of are pools of private wealth ie because of capitalism
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 16-Feb-2018 09:46:33 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Râu Cao ⚡
     @raucao capitalist use their wealth to hijack governments, to privatize more commons into private wealth, rinse, repeat ie capitalism
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 19-Feb-2018 08:57:22 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Râu Cao ⚡
     @raucao if we're going to make headway discussing poverty, or anything else, we need to define our terms https://c4ss.org/content/50456