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1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 07:49:27 UTC Danyl Strype
   Anyone familiar with #Slack replacements got any comments on this?
   https://github.com/bigokro/gruff/issues/1#issuecomment-378920266
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 15:27:26 UTC Danyl Strype
     @ninjatrappeur I think one of the common misconceptions in conversations like these is that web designers are geeks ...
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 15:28:28 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @ninjatrappeur ... sometimes they are geeks as well, but mostly they're people who 30 years ago would have been laying out magazine ...
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 15:29:45 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @ninjatrappeur ... not building or operating the presses that print magazines. That's why #Slack is more attractive to them than IRC or XMPP
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 15:41:20 UTC Danyl Strype
     @sheogorath do you know of anyone doing community hosting of Mattermost, who could set the #Gruff team up with one?
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 15:47:50 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @sheogorath hmm, this page makes me suspicious that Mattermost might be Open Core
     https://about.mattermost.com/pricing/
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 15:49:53 UTC Danyl Strype
     @tofeo @sheogorath the main difference between #Riot and #Mattermost (or #RocketChat) seems to be that Riot is federated (using #Matrix) ...
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 15:56:59 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @tofeo @sheogorath Mattermost / RocketChat aim to replace the user experience of the app itself, but not the "everybody goes there" vibe ...
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 15:57:54 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @tofeo @sheogorath for people who like #Slack mainly for the "everybody into the pool" network effect, Riot might be a better option ...
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 15:59:17 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @tofeo @sheogorath in a nutshell; are you look for a chat app for teams getting work done in private, or a chat based social network?
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 16:05:50 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @tofeo @sheogorath my hunch is Matrix is the better choice in the long term for engaging with outside contributors, supporting users etc ...
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 16:06:52 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @tofeo @sheogorath ... because if / when it takes off, people will be able to login to your Matrix server with their existing Matrix account
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 16:07:51 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @tofeo @sheogorath AFAIK that's not what MM/ RC are designed for, and I don't know if or when they will support any federation protocols
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 16:10:37 UTC Danyl Strype
     @sheogorath @tofeo have you tried #RocketChat? How does its feature set compare with that of Mattermost?
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 19:24:49 UTC Danyl Strype
     @deejoe @sheogorath thanks for the link. I had thought "open core" was a widely used term for releasing just enough code for #OpenWashing
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 19:25:50 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @deejoe @sheogorath like what #GitHub do ...
     http://tom.preston-werner.com/2011/11/22/open-source-everything.html
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 06-Apr-2018 19:27:12 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @deejoe @sheogorath ... and what Mattermost appear to do. For me it's a good reason not to use software if there's a free code replacement
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 07-Apr-2018 14:36:43 UTC Danyl Strype
     @deejoe @sheogorath thing is, all #Mattermost plans are self-hosting. The prices are what they charge you to use some components of the code
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 07-Apr-2018 14:37:25 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @deejoe @sheogorath unless I'm seriously misreading the pricing page?
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 07-Apr-2018 14:44:39 UTC Danyl Strype
     @sheogorath @deejoe which makes me less inclined to use Mattermost and more likely to use #RocketChat (unless they do something similar?)
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 09-Apr-2018 10:38:35 UTC Danyl Strype
     @tofeo I suspected some people might find that. Did you try Rocket.chat or just Mattermost? There is a free test server at open.rocket.chat
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Apr-2018 02:59:27 UTC Danyl Strype
     @tofeo No, not federated. Only tried the demo at open.rocket.chat so can't comment on install. I found it easier to use than #Riot
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Apr-2018 08:24:44 UTC Danyl Strype

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     @tofeo one more that might be worth evaluating is #Zulip. They offer gratis hosting for free code projects. Demo here: chat.zulip.org
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Apr-2018 03:29:34 UTC Danyl Strype
     thanks @sheogorath would you Spectrum is more standalone (like RC/ MM/ Zulip) or more social / federated like Gitter, Riot, XMPP clients etc
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Apr-2018 07:28:48 UTC Danyl Strype
     @sheogorath they have no plans to do federation, even with other #Spectrum instances, so seems superficially similar to MM/ RC/ Zulip ...