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Vodo.net is a great idea; use #BitTorrent to distribute indie movies, docos, and series, much of it #CC licensed, and collect $ for creators
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Problem is #Vodo is styled like an illegal download site, with almost no up-to-date information about the project or the people behind it.
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Is the JS Vodo runs in my browser free code? Who knows? Are they going to use #WebTorrent to stream video via BitTorrent as well? Who knows?
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Does Vodo have a blog for news about the project? Where? How do I contact their developers? Lacking all this, the site seems so ... amateur
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Don't get me wrong, amateur stuff is great, it's how people learn skills, gain experience, and most importantly, participate in culture ...
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... but if you're competing with entrenched #BigMedia, trying to prove a whole new video funding model, looking amateur won't fly Vodo
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@vorticalbox have you looked into how well #WebTorrent works on mobile devices? Hang on, when you say scale, are you talking page layout?
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@vorticalbox ... because if looking at Vodo in a small desktop window mimics the experience of navigating it on a mobile device *shudder*
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@vorticalbox it's no better. I suspect these folks need some hackers and designers to help them bring Vodo.net into the 21st century ;)
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@budkin only if you're not logged in as a user. Every single website you've ever signed up for requires an email address *at least*, so ...
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@budkin why you have to sign up for YouTube? Answer is you don't, but if you do, you have access to stuff you don't otherwise ...
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@budkin in the case of Vodo, that include not having to give your email address every time you download, and being able to support creators
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@budkin if you don't care about supporting creators, and you just want gratis stuff, there are sites already providing that like #TPB
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@budkin I think I did. Every website wants your email, coz a) allows you to be identified as a unique user, b) makes it harder to DDOS them
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@budkin if I must enter a unique email address for each download, I can't DDOS them (quickly) by requesting the same torrent 1000s of times
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@budkin if you really don't want to give them your real email address you can always give them a burner from a site like guerrillamail.com
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@budkin true :) In the thread that followed the post you replied to, we talked about how badly the site needs updating (magnet links!)
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@budkin sure, you can point a DDOS gun at every single page on a site, but HTTP downloads are particularly vulnerable to disruption
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@budkin I agree with the second part, but I don't see why they'd sell user data. They don't collect enough data to be valuable ...
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@budkin ... and they have another revenue model (collecting contributions from viewers), so why take the risk? They're film-makers, not VCs
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@budkin ok, I'll admit I'm on shaky with this argument ;) But ...
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@budkin ... I remember when FTP was for file downloads, not HTTP, and we neede a download manager app to make HTTP downloads work reliably
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@budkin ... although I guess back then HTML pages were tiny (see: motherfuckingwebsite.com), and downloaded files were usually much bigger
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@budkin if you set up a user account, and login, you will see much more than browsing as a random visitor
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@budkin I'm not sure if they have a way to donate to the platform itself, or if they take a proportion of the donations given to films ...
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@budkin ... but a site like Vodo costs almost nothing to run, and the founders make their money through making films, not websites ...
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@budkin https://gigaom.com/2010/08/22/5-questions-with-vodo-founder-jamie-king/
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@budkin HTTP still isn't that stable, and you still need a download manager for HTTP downloads, there's one bundled with every browser ...
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@budkin @boneidol no fucking way! If I had a spell that gave weeping sores to every webmaster that puts goOgle spyware on their site ...
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@budkin I suspect if anyone contacted them and offered to build them a #WebTorrent site using only free code, they would jump at the offer
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@budkin yeah, maybe you're right, and there's no difference between .torrent files and .html files served from the same webserver
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@budkin ... but a download site serves way more files than a normal site, so they have a larger attack surface that increases with time
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@budkin thanks for the link. What license is umatrix code under?
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