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1. jəˈrunˈprɑːt (jeroenpraat@todon.nl@todon.nl)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Jun-2018 14:59:30 UTC jəˈrunˈprɑːt

   @alexgleason I was always pro non-violence, but over the years it became clear to me that there are situations where violence should be used.

   But first you have to define violence. For me at least it is only violence when people or other animals are involved. So property destruction and even unmotivated vandalism is *not* violence, how hard the media and the authorities try to tell people.

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   • jəˈrunˈprɑːt (jeroenpraat@todon.nl@todon.nl)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Jun-2018 15:09:25 UTC jəˈrunˈprɑːt

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     @alexgleason But I think self-defense is an ethical form of violence. Although it should always be proportional and explainable afterwards. And killing someone is only justifiable when there's no other way out in that moment, when it really is the last thing you can do when there is a direct lethal threat. In war situations things can become more complicated, but even then people in combat should try to avoid casualties to the max. (and also in self-defense of course).

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