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1. Benjamin Mako Hill (mako@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 30-Jun-2018 23:27:55 UTC Benjamin Mako Hill

   @mike_hales In terms of managing protocols, you're right that's turtles all the way down.

   But I also think there's real autonomy to be gained from pushing things onto a lower turtle. ;)

   Creating, changing, adding to the SMTP (email) protocol standard involves politics. And it has been coopted in clear ways. But the fact that it's a federated protocol by design means that we're MUCH better than alternative where everybody had to use GMail to send messages to each other.

   • Benjamin Mako Hill (mako@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 30-Jun-2018 23:32:04 UTC Benjamin Mako Hill

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     @mike_hales More to the point, I also think it's better than if we all had use some cooperatively run GMail alternative.

     Being able to choose between many federated coop-GMails feels much more flexible & resilient to me.