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  1. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Jan-2019 07:59:13 UTC Strypey Strypey

    "I disagree with making "diversity" a goal. If the developers in a specific free software project do not include demographic D, I don't think that the lack of them as a problem that requires action; there is no need to scramble desperately to recruit some Ds. Rather, the problem is that if we make demographic D feel unwelcome, we lose out on possible contributors. And very likely also others that are not in demographic D."
    - #RichardStallman
    http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2018-10/msg00001.html

    In conversation Thursday, 10-Jan-2019 07:59:13 UTC from mastodon.nzoss.nz permalink
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    • Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Jan-2019 08:03:36 UTC Strypey Strypey
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      • Emacsen

      "In the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines announcement, RMS explicitly states that diversity is not a goal of his."
      - @emacsen
      https://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2018/10/19/gkcg-is-bad/

      If you look at the whole quote, this totally misrepresents what Stallman is saying, which is about diversity within "a specific free software project". In other words, if a project has one developer, who happens to be a straight, white man, nothing is gained by trying to shoehorn gay, POC, or female developers into that project.

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    • Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Thursday, 10-Jan-2019 08:10:00 UTC Strypey Strypey
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      • Emacsen

      @emacsen The #CodeOfConduct approach is better than ignoring the problem of exclusion altogether. But it doesn't solve the underlying problem of exclusion, it just changes the location and mechanics of the exclusion barrier. I've never seen CoCs as more than a stopgap, and I've long argued for a '#WelcomingSpaces' approach, as a replacement for Safer Spaces Policing. I think the Kind Communication Guidelines are a great contribution by Stallman, perhaps his most important one since the #GNU GPL.

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