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1. Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅ (bob@soc.freedombone.net)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Feb-2019 15:48:24 UTC Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅
   So if WhatsApp users are looking to exit from the vampire castle but don't realize that servers exist, what's the best way to explain that they need to pick an XMPP server? The situation is similar for people leaving Twitter for the fediverse.
   
   The usual answer is "it's like email", but this isn't very convincing because to anyone under 30 email has always been something made by Google.
   
   The way I might explain it is that perhaps one day we will have a fully peer-to-peer internet, but we're not yet there and in the current version of the internet there are servers. The servers aren't magical and are run by real people like you. If you want to get out from the corporate hellscape then this means you won't want to be using a Google server or a Facebook ejabberd server as with WhatsApp. You need to find some other server to handle your messages. Hopefully one which isn't going to sell your data or push ads.
   
   In the current internet you're encouraged not to think about the real underlying social relations. You're encouraged not to think about where your data is or who has control of it. You're supposed to believe that it's serverless or cloudy. In the decentralized internet you do need to begin thinking about these things and make decisions about who to trust.
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   • Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Feb-2019 16:03:51 UTC Christine Lemmer-Webber

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     @bob The key to all of this is making it so that you don't need to pick a server, yeah? Just run on your device, and store-and-forward works ok enough so that when you come online, you get the messages you were waiting for.

     Break down that client-to-server divide!

     Adonay Felipe Nogueira repeated this.