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1. Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2019 17:15:59 UTC Bernie

   • Xerz 💗 [UNMOVED]
   • Charles U. Farley

   @freakazoid @espectalll automake / autoconf ended up taking a ton of complexity and technical debt attempting to support esoteric platforms such as MinGW, OSX and the very limited make on older BSD systems.

   The irony of that is that almost no configure script worked out of the box on those platforms anyway, so users would always do "bash ./configure && gmake" just to be sure.

   But the only thing we learn from from history is that we never learn anything from history...

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2019 17:23:07 UTC Bernie

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     • Xerz 💗 [UNMOVED]
     • Charles U. Farley

     @freakazoid @espectalll ...then the Python devs came and said: fuck it, existing build systems are too damn complex! Let's invent easy_install, and it will be 100% Pure Python and solve packaging on all platforms for good 😂

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2019 17:29:30 UTC Bernie

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     • Xerz 💗 [UNMOVED]
     • Charles U. Farley

     @freakazoid @espectalll Oh, look! I should have checked https://certbot.eff.org/ . Now they're packaging certbot separately for every Linux distro and OS, including PPAs for Ubuntu of course.

     But not every developer can afford to setup a build farm just to ship a small CLI tool with a dependency on Django...