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1. ∑ Xah Lee 李杀 (xahlee@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2019 05:34:49 UTC ∑ Xah Lee 李杀

   NEC PC-9801 Keyboard, 1992
   http://xahlee.info/kbd/nec_m_type_1992.html

   • ∑ Xah Lee 李杀 (xahlee@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2019 06:06:04 UTC ∑ Xah Lee 李杀

     • BoingoTango

     @BoingoTango lol. why?

   • ∑ Xah Lee 李杀 (xahlee@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2019 06:09:07 UTC ∑ Xah Lee 李杀

     • BoingoTango

     @BoingoTango
     yeah, i agree the arrows there is pretty bad. though JP has lots layout innovations, much earlier than US/UK.

   • ∑ Xah Lee 李杀 (xahlee@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2019 06:11:32 UTC ∑ Xah Lee 李杀

     • BoingoTango

     @BoingoTango
     the original design of that, called m-type, is this
     http://xahlee.info/kbd/Japan_M-Type_TRON_keyboards.html
     arrows separate.
     they created rectangular layout later so i suppose for people's habit

   • ∑ Xah Lee 李杀 (xahlee@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2019 06:24:07 UTC ∑ Xah Lee 李杀

     • BoingoTango

     @BoingoTango if not into ergo/split ones, then it's not hard to pick.
     under $100 should do. Be sure to get mechanical keys.

     for dirt cheap to begin, this works
     http://xahlee.info/kbd/water_resistant_mechanical_keyboard.html

     Optical is also pretty good
     http://xahlee.info/kbd/keyboard_optical_switch.html

     or you can pick brand name ones or other fancy ones
     http://xahlee.info/kbd/keyboard_review_gallery.html
     exactly which really depends on your preference.

   • ∑ Xah Lee 李杀 (xahlee@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2019 06:43:29 UTC ∑ Xah Lee 李杀

     • BoingoTango

     @BoingoTango the MS4000, i think you are unlucky. The frequent complaint i heard is stiff space bar. which got me into trouble.

     maltron is like $500. i use Kinesis, which is ~ $320.

   • ∑ Xah Lee 李杀 (xahlee@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2019 07:02:54 UTC ∑ Xah Lee 李杀

     • BoingoTango

     @BoingoTango yeah, i had 3 years love of that keyboard.
     also, lots people want MS400 with mech keys. you can see it often in keyboard forums. guess it won't happen. i haven't seen they have patent, didn't looked neither, i guess so.