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1. zack wol berg (zwol@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2019 17:49:18 UTC zack wol berg

   Has anyone written up a concise explanation of the reasons why internet activists tend not to trust Cloudflare? I’m having trouble convincing one of my cow-orkers that this is actually a thing to be concerned about (when developing a website whose audience is specifically those activists, so this isn’t just a solidarity thing, it affects our credibility).

   • Adonay Felipe Nogueira repeated this.
   • Ruby Rhod (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2019 19:11:33 UTC Ruby Rhod

     • Ruby Rhod
     @zwol if you think it's great for one company to receive half the internet's traffic -- and see the unencrypted data -- just to proxy it as a service, then :shrug:
     
     CloudFlare will be doing their IPO soon. They'll have fiduciary duty to their shareholders to maximize profits, that means doing scary things with the data they have access to.
     
     Draw your own conclusions. They're not going to go down in history as a good guy, I'm certain of that.
   • Ruby Rhod (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2019 19:58:10 UTC Ruby Rhod

     • Ruby Rhod
     @portpupper @zwol yup, they're in it for the money not to make the internet better.
     
     It's also one of the reasons I'm salty about the DoH shit Firefox is doing
   • Ruby Rhod (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2019 23:09:16 UTC Ruby Rhod

     • Ruby Rhod
     • nil
     @0 @zwol Yes they do.
     
     Ebay v Newmark, 2010. It is now codified by case law.
   • Ruby Rhod (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Sep-2019 23:12:06 UTC Ruby Rhod

     • Ruby Rhod
     • nil
     @ariadne @0 @zwol
     
     https://www.litigationandtrial.com/2010/09/articles/series/special-comment/ebay-v-newmark-al-franken-was-right-corporations-are-legally-required-to-maximize-profits/
   • Ruby Rhod (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Wednesday, 25-Sep-2019 20:48:30 UTC Ruby Rhod

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     • Ruby Rhod
     @zwol To circle back on this --
     
     CloudFlare is releasing WARP to the general public. So now a lot of mobile users will be sending *all* their traffic through CloudFlare.
     
     https://blog.cloudflare.com/announcing-warp-plus/
     
     This is going to get worse. I promise.