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  1. 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Oct-2019 17:53:01 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
    • Jasper

    @jasper Could be, I mean if she was paid for that purpose it wouldnt surprise me, but thats not the feeling I get.

    Are you equally mad at Obama and his wife being friends with Bush for the same reason and call out Obama as being in league with Bush too then?

    In conversation Tuesday, 08-Oct-2019 17:53:01 UTC from qoto.org permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 12-Oct-2019 14:10:17 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Jasper

      @jasper Omission isnt lying, it can sometimes be deceitful and that can be just as bad or worse, but it isnt lying IMO. Especially if we talk government, keeping secrets isnt just not lying, it is a legal requirement (though again not always moral).

      Im not sure i understand the relevance of her lgbt focus however. I dont like identity politics but I dont mind someone personally identifying a certain way either. In this case I'm not sure her public LGBT identity is an issue.

      I'd be less concerned with the country that is verifying the strikes so much as the policy and standards used when evaluating and how they are upheld. I wouldnt doubt that there is strong bias from youtube there...

      In conversation Saturday, 12-Oct-2019 14:10:17 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 13-Oct-2019 06:11:49 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Jasper

      @jasper He did, and I dont like his politics for it. I express that with my vote though, not personal hatred towards someone simply for being raised with values i dont agree with.

      In conversation Sunday, 13-Oct-2019 06:11:49 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 13-Oct-2019 09:59:11 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Jasper

      @jasper I dunno, if i worry about white washing history Obama's used of murder without due process on american citizens and the democrats painting him as a "good guy" is a far bigger offense to me if thats our priority.

      I'd take offense if she might have white washed over a DECISION he made as president (just as I do when they do that in the above case with obama). But I have no issue at all with painting him as a decent person who had hard decisions to make and simply made decisions I disagree with.

      She is tackling the #1 overwhelming problem in america right now.. the "I'm offended by your difference of opinion" crowd which has effectively degraded america to a shit show on both sides.

      So i am more than happy to see her combating the top issue even if that means a little collateral damage to the fact that people dont recognize his mistakes as readily as I'd like.

      In conversation Sunday, 13-Oct-2019 09:59:11 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 13-Oct-2019 10:35:41 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Jasper

      @jasper She never said she questions nothing, only that she can sit and be friends with him. She can and does question many of his policies as she has been vocal about.

      I also would have no objection to her sitting next to Obama and doing the same.

      If you have issue with a policy, you attack the policy, not the person.

      What she did was right and an example for others on how to behave.

      In conversation Sunday, 13-Oct-2019 10:35:41 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 13-Oct-2019 10:38:45 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Jasper

      @jasper No I'm saying we shouldnt punish things. Those things simply should not be political theory or application.

      I will attack Obama being a murderer, I might even push for him to go to jail for it. But I would still treat the person respectfully in my dealings with them. There is a distinct difference.

      I also judge a person based on their intention far more than their actions. If someone tries to do what is right and good but i disagree that their choices result in that result, I would not disrespect the person for those choices, but I would attack the decision itself.

      In conversation Sunday, 13-Oct-2019 10:38:45 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 13-Oct-2019 11:02:20 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Jasper

      @jasper Considering she is leading by example in wrt that suggestion I'd rather her not. But to each their own.

      In conversation Sunday, 13-Oct-2019 11:02:20 UTC permalink

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