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1. 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2019 07:20:25 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

   Sadly...

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2019 07:37:04 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • Christopher M0YNG

     @M0YNG
     Knowledge on the internet is near i finite. You could spend your whole life on the internet accessing scholarly peer reivewed papers, or you could spend it memorizing all the worda to every sponge bob episode.

     The internet just gives you easy access to whatever knowledge you seek. The quality of that knowledge is entierly up to you, it isnt dictates by the internet.

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2019 11:34:06 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • Wetrix

     @Wetrix
     I disagree, things go far far worse when you have a system which attempts to dictate what information a person has access to or not. Much worse than where someone has access to all information, good and bad. We only have to look to vultures that ban certain books or worse yet resort to book burning to see why.

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2019 12:34:26 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • Wetrix

     @Wetrix
     That is what i suspected you meant when i replied. Let me explain my response better.

     If at a societal level you wish to block or prevent access to incorrect information then you require some oracle capable of correctly, objectively, and without agenda, determine which information is correct.

     As well meaning as that approach may be any such oracle will ultimately fail since we have no way of creating or sustainable ng such an oracle.

     In addition there is the second fact that nearly all factual information must be born out of ideas which have not yet been proven to be true, or i. Some cases may have been wrongly assumed yo be false. If we eliminated access to everything except the truth then all you will get is stagnation.

     I need access to the flatearth wikipedia, with all its incorrect information, if i wish to be able to understand the way they think and therefore engage with them in a way that might be fruitful as well.

   • Hector [EUnomia score: -84%] (hector@explosion.party)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Oct-2019 12:37:56 UTC Hector [EUnomia score: -84%]

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     • Wetrix
     @freemo @Wetrix these days it's like nobody has even heard of Areopagitica.
     🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 repeated this.
   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2019 08:38:52 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @namark Send a flat earther to university and he will only fail out and still think the earth is flat. Its not the information, its how people are taught to rationalize.

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2019 11:16:05 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @namark I agree, there is a huge problem in much of the world with access to education, stigmas, and shame. /It isnt helping.

     But that is not an example of lack of access but rather how we treat these people socially on many aspects (generally we shame exploration of facts). The issue is less so the access to education for the bilk of stupidity.

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2019 11:41:39 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     @namark I generally agree with peer teaching as a technique. But as i said its a small part of the problem that largely begins with how people are raised as well.

     But for the most part I agree that the problem is a social one, not an access to education one for the most part.

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 02-Nov-2019 13:08:08 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • ComPhys
     • Christopher M0YNG

     @comphys

     I agree, textbooks are generally better. Though with that said there is no shortage of textbooks on piratebay either.

     With that said I dont think if you made textbooks free you'd see any fewer flat earthers either as they dont appear to make any effort to learn even the basics, let alone rigorous knowledge like a text book.

     @M0YNG