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1. 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 28-Nov-2019 12:32:06 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

   I've always found the "Chinese Curses" of particular interest. Now to be fair there is no evidence that the origin of these curses are Chinese but that doesn't take anything away from them:

   * May you live in interesting times.
   * May you come to the attention of important people.
   * May all your wishes come true.

   of them all the last one was always the most interesting to me. For two reasons, first, we may not always be fully aware of what we truly want or the consequences of it. But also, if all your wishes come true, what is left to look forward to and strive for. There is no reason to life without unfulfilled desires.

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 28-Nov-2019 12:53:11 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • shakha

     @shakha Why would you head in a direction that you do not wish to go in. If all your wishes came true anything you could do would have to be the set of things you do not wish to do, nor wish for the results from doing it.

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 28-Nov-2019 13:01:41 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • shakha

     @shakha nope thats why i specifically picked the wording "not wish".. point is why would you put effort into a path you had no opinion on.

     I dont know about you but I do not take actions unless i wish for those actions to take place.

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 28-Nov-2019 13:18:13 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • shakha

     @shakha Not sure why you keep saying "clear end point" .. the point is not confined to clear endpoints, or any endpoint at all. If you do not wish to take the journey, then why do you take it?

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 28-Nov-2019 13:21:41 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • shakha

     @shakha "What should I do? Do whatever you wish"... I'm defining wish by its dictionary definition :)

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 28-Nov-2019 13:34:32 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • shakha

     @shakha We are deep in semantics at this point. While its hard to be wrong in the world of semantics, as we define the rules as we go. Its also when the ideas hold less value since they become mutable.

     The valuable lesson here is that happiness is what drives us no matter how much we may want to think it is some altruistic cause. All of our wishes are simply all the things we believe would bring us happiness. Thus, if all your wishes are fullfilled then by extension you either fall into one of two classes 1) there is nothing left that would bring you happiness or 2) your wishes were not in line with what makes you happy. Neither of which is a very nice end.

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 28-Nov-2019 14:12:52 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • Rovine(QOTO)

     @Rovine The chinese curses dont likely originate with the chinese. Its a somewhat older racist term for things that are not what they seem.

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interesting_times