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  1. πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡± (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2019 09:53:49 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡±

    So apparently J.K. Rowling went from feminist idol to TERF this week.

    While I myself am very vocally anti-sexist I must admit as a community the majority of feminists will throw you under a bus the second you step one ideological toe out of line. She backed that horse through much of her modern career trying to pander to the feminist community to increase her fame in insincere and largely meaningless gestures. She made her bed and now she has to lie in it.

    Personally this is why I am so blunt and willing to discuss or consider unpopular ideological views in any group. I know this will be the outcome no matter how hard I try so might as well be intellectually sincere in my public evaluations of the world.

    With that said I'm not clear on J.K.'s actual opinion beyond a few vague tweets so I cant say if the attacks have any justification.

    She does seem to think sex is immutable, strictly speaking she is right, it is the genders that trans-people change, not their sex. But the ore important aspect is that unless you are a medical doctor talking about someones genitalia then any use of pronouns you choose or the word "male" and "female" are and have historically been references to gender not sex.

    So while her statement strictly speaking was a bit of a non-point, it does suggest she is rather clueless as to the linguistic and underlying considerations of the discussion.

    In conversation Saturday, 21-Dec-2019 09:53:49 UTC from qoto.org permalink
    • πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡± (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2019 11:31:32 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡±
      • timorl

      @timorl Like most people who sound like her im not sure she really knows what she believes. She just doesnt understand the english words for sex and gender most likely and assumes they are the same thing.

      In conversation Saturday, 21-Dec-2019 11:31:32 UTC permalink
    • timorl (timorl@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2019 13:33:04 UTC timorl timorl
      in reply to

      @freemo She seems somewhat more committed to it, than if it were just the result of misunderstanding. A longer article about it: https://medium.com/@Phaylen/jk-rowling-confirms-stance-against-transgender-women-9bd83f7ca623 . The article does not present a single conclusive piece of evidence as the title suggests (and it is not of highest quality), but the small things add up. Not conclusive, but sufficient to suspect an actual ideological stance, rather than lack of understanding.

      In conversation Saturday, 21-Dec-2019 13:33:04 UTC permalink

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      1. JK Rowling Confirms Stance Against Transgender Women
        from https://medium.com/@Phaylen
        It’s been a long time coming, but finally we have a definitive answer. JK Rowling is a TERF.
      πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡± repeated this.
    • πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡± (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2019 14:26:18 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡±
      • timorl

      @timorl Ill check it out when i get a chance, thank you.

      But bear in mind an actual ideological stance is, usually, born out of lack of understanding. But thanks to confirmation bias is not cured by giving the person understanding, in fact, it prevents them from being able to understand in the first place.

      In conversation Saturday, 21-Dec-2019 14:26:18 UTC permalink
    • πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡± (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2019 16:39:40 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 πŸŽ“ Dr. Freemo :jpf: πŸ‡³πŸ‡±
      • kline 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

      @kline I find anyone who has left or right as a central part of their identity is hostile. Its usually a red-flag of extremism in english speaking countries. Not at all the case in Europe though (excluding the UK)

      In conversation Saturday, 21-Dec-2019 16:39:40 UTC permalink

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