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  1. 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 10:42:05 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

    What some christians actually believe.. yea pretty sure god is enlightened enough not to care who you love if he created all of time and space

    In conversation Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 10:42:05 UTC from qoto.org permalink

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    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 10:56:26 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
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      @snow Agreed!

      In conversation Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 10:56:26 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 11:40:49 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

      @cowanon The scripture is ambiguous in nature. What it intends to say is a matter of opinion and can easily be twisted in either direction on most issues

      In conversation Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 11:40:49 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 12:00:31 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

      @cowanon No part of the bible is "clearly labeled" The best you can hope for is taking a quote out of context and assume that it is intended as a directive, which is rarely the case but often claimed.

      In conversation Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 12:00:31 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 12:04:29 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

      @cowanon No part of the bible is "clearly labeled" The best you can hope for is taking a quote out of context and assume that it is intended as a directive, which is rarely the case but often claimed.

      Even then it takes a great deal of assumed interpritation.

      Take for example the quote "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman" Two issues with how we interprit that.. 1) it doesnt say you cant have sex with men, only that if you "lie" with a man you must do so differently than with a woman, it is not explicit beyond that. 2) It does not explicitly state that this is a directive delivered by god and many have interpreted it as an assertion of legal/social codes at the time and not a directive of what god demands.

      In conversation Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 12:04:29 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 12:07:21 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

      @cowanon I'm familiar with the ideas, yes.

      In conversation Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 12:07:21 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 12:23:09 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

      @cowanon I think there is a huge difference between the distilled religious knowledge available in the bible and the christian faith that has grown around it with specific interpretations.

      There is even further separation between the religious wisdom the authors of the bible were trying to describe, and the actual text they wound up writing (which would be tainted by their own biases).

      Its for these two reasons that when I try to study any religion, christian included, I try to study its origins and pre-organized writings/history first and foremost. To help separate those elements.

      I'll check out your video once i am done getting sound working on this new machine.

      In conversation Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 12:23:09 UTC permalink

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