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  1. 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2020 13:26:34 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

    My god the democratic debates is such a shit show. As much as I hate Trump and would like to see him replaced its getting harder and harder to consider the democrats a viable alternative.

    Since they lost the election it seems they have done everything in their power to make sure they loose it again.

    In conversation Thursday, 16-Jan-2020 13:26:34 UTC from qoto.org permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2020 13:29:20 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Xyfdi Horton

      @xyfdi That seems to be where it is headed yea.

      In conversation Thursday, 16-Jan-2020 13:29:20 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2020 14:10:36 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • SillyString

      @sillystring Yea I know, its amazing Trump can be as shitty an option as he is and still look like he has a good chance.. like WTF

      In conversation Thursday, 16-Jan-2020 14:10:36 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2020 17:02:19 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Kris Law

      @greylaw89 agreed

      In conversation Thursday, 16-Jan-2020 17:02:19 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2020 13:03:58 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • SillyString
      • Steven Roose

      @stevenroose

      When I see good third party candidates I do and will vote for them. I vote for who is best. So far not a single competent third party candidate has stood up yet though. So unless that changes I'm in a pickle

      @sillystring

      In conversation Friday, 17-Jan-2020 13:03:58 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2020 13:08:28 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • SillyString
      • Steven Roose

      @stevenroose

      During the Hillary Primaries I was a big Bernie supporter. I thought his policies were horrific but I was willing to give him my support because I beleived he had integrity.

      Then when the superdelegates screwed him over and a very evil lady (Hillary) won I was pissed. But then I saw Bernie support the democratic party and even lend his support to Hilary. To see him support someone so corrupt and guilty of almost constant lying caused me to realize he did not have the integrity I thought he had. In that moment he guaranteed I would always vote against him in any future election.

      @sillystring

      In conversation Friday, 17-Jan-2020 13:08:28 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2020 17:37:07 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • SillyString
      • Steven Roose

      @stevenroose

      Well part of the problem is that he has party loyalty, rather than personal integrity. The fact that he would support a corrupt lying politician for the sake of party loyalty is disgusting to me.

      If he cares more about winning an electrion than doing what is right then he already lost in my mind.

      PErsonally if he had called out the immoral behavior of his party and became an independent then he would have had my vote thats for sure. Would it have lost him the election in the future, yea probably, but therein lies the problem, having integrity often means you wont win the election, which is exactly why we dont have presidents with integrity.

      @sillystring

      In conversation Friday, 17-Jan-2020 17:37:07 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2020 17:44:02 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      in reply to
      • SillyString
      • Steven Roose

      @stevenroose

      You have to keep in mind, hands down the biggest thing that needs fixing in the USA political seen is the polarization. The people sticking to party lines for the sake of unity rather than acting on their own conscious.

      I want candidates who arent afraid to call out their party, the ones who only occasionally if at all vote down party lines.

      So Bernie has shown that he embodies the most toxic principle in US politicis and as such has lost the support from me he once had.

      @sillystring

      In conversation Friday, 17-Jan-2020 17:44:02 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2020 08:15:14 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • SillyString
      • Steven Roose

      @stevenroose

      I aree, you should. Sadly thats clearly not Biden, Warren, or Bernie

      @sillystring

      In conversation Saturday, 18-Jan-2020 08:15:14 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2020 16:56:36 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • SillyString
      • Steven Roose

      @anornymorse

      I really doubt that. The Democrats are dumb and crooked but I don't think they are quite stupid enough to try and pull that. If they did I dont think anyone would be on board at this point.

      @sillystring @stevenroose

      In conversation Monday, 20-Jan-2020 16:56:36 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2020 17:01:18 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • SillyString
      • Steven Roose

      @anornymorse

      We shall see. I wish we could make a bet :)

      @sillystring @stevenroose

      In conversation Monday, 20-Jan-2020 17:01:18 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2020 17:03:37 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • SillyString
      • Steven Roose

      @stevenroose

      I actually see Bernie as having very little integrity, I disagree, not that any of them have any. But I would argue that Bernie's integrity is higher than warren and Biden, marginally so, and even Trump. but his catastrophic policies make that marginal lead in integrity rather meaningless to me at this point. In the past I saw him as having significant integrity, enough to outweight his bad policies, but I no longer see that as the case.

      @sillystring

      In conversation Monday, 20-Jan-2020 17:03:37 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2020 17:04:58 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • SillyString
      • Steven Roose

      @stevenroose

      I'm down!

      @anornymorse @sillystring

      In conversation Monday, 20-Jan-2020 17:04:58 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2020 17:07:11 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • SillyString
      • Steven Roose

      @anornymorse

      Yea, my roommate :)

      @sillystring @stevenroose

      In conversation Monday, 20-Jan-2020 17:07:11 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2020 17:18:57 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • SillyString
      • Steven Roose

      @anornymorse

      I'd even give ya 2:1 odds :)

      @sillystring @stevenroose

      In conversation Monday, 20-Jan-2020 17:18:57 UTC permalink

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