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1. Tagomago (tagomago@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 26-Aug-2021 09:51:43 UTC Tagomago

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   • ART // Cantankerous Tech
   • Kermode

   @art @gemlog

   FYI: https://hackaday.com/2021/08/23/open-source-insulin-biohackers-aiming-for-distributed-production/

   • ART // Cantankerous Tech (art@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 26-Aug-2021 09:51:44 UTC ART // Cantankerous Tech

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     • Kermode

     @gemlog Not pessimistic. You're completely correct.

   • Kermode (gemlog@tilde.zone)'s status on Thursday, 26-Aug-2021 09:51:51 UTC Kermode

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     • ART // Cantankerous Tech

     @art
     Holy mac! At the current exchange rate, she'd need to be 16 diabetics to use that much insulin in bc, canada. More even.
     Sadly, I don't hold out any hope at all for a made in the USA NHS.
     Back when Canada first got theirs there was a huge lobbying and disinformation effort from the medical corporations in the USA. Also, our doctors went on strike to keep their $$ monopoly.
     Tommy Douglas went to the UK and signed up hundreds of UK doctors and brought some back. The doctors caved and it later became national.
     Do you think the USA med-pharma capitalists have less or more power in the USA today?
     Yeah.... sorry, but that's my pessimistic view.

   • Kermode (gemlog@tilde.zone)'s status on Thursday, 26-Aug-2021 09:51:52 UTC Kermode

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     • ART // Cantankerous Tech

     @art
     Still the insulin cost thread.
     First off, 5 9's of pharmacists are friendly, helpful and knowledgeable. Yes, 99.999% of them! :-)
     Anyhow, I go how much for a vial of insulin? "What kind?"
     Umm... "Rapid acting?" Is that good for a type 1 diabetic? "Yes, $30. Is that full price without Pharmacare? "Yes." If I wasn't a really brittle diabetic, could I get through a month with that? "Yes."
     So. In a random supermarket in canada near the alaskan panhandle, a vial of insulin is $30CAD.
     What are you paying down there Art? In USD is fine. I'm really curious now.

   • ART // Cantankerous Tech (art@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 26-Aug-2021 09:51:52 UTC ART // Cantankerous Tech

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     • Kermode

     @gemlog It's my Mom who uses the insulin and I'm not sure what kinds shes on. At one point it was $400 USD per month. The US needs a NHS or something.

   • ART // Cantankerous Tech (art@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 26-Aug-2021 09:51:54 UTC ART // Cantankerous Tech

     Insulin was first used as medicine in 1922. US patents last for about 20 years. How the fuck is Insulin still expensive? Is it the process on making it that's hard? I really don't understand why it's not cheap or free.