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1. Future is FOSS (futureisfoss@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Nov-2021 10:08:05 UTC Future is FOSS

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   Yeah, most people coming from mainstream social media platforms are used to this idea of someone else moderating the internet for them, we have to change this mentality and learn to take some responsibility ourselfs if we want a truly free internet, not to mention the pressure it puts on instance admins. The more I think about it, I feel like this self moderation thing would be more suitable for p2p networks like https://scuttlebutt.nz/
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   • FediFollows 👻 (fedifollows@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Nov-2021 10:08:57 UTC FediFollows 👻

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     FediBlock is giving specific reasons so instance admins can decide what to do on their own server.

     If you read all those reasons, everyone will find at least something where they agree with a block.

     It is totally fine for this info to be passed to instance admins so they can decide what to do.

     For example, an admin might not want to pay for costs of federating spam, so it is fine to warn them about spam instances.

     This is common sense.

     Toni :mastodon: repeated this.
   • FediFollows 👻 (fedifollows@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Nov-2021 10:08:57 UTC FediFollows 👻

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     If someone else is paying for the server, and has the legal responsibility for that server's content, then it is fine for them to establish certain rules.

     If you disagree, the Fediverse lets you move your account to another server, or even set up your own.

     This is totally different to Facebook, Twitter etc where there is no alternative, and everyone has to obey the same set of automated decision makers.

     Toni :mastodon: repeated this.
   • Tio (tio@social.trom.tf)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Nov-2021 10:09:55 UTC Tio

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     @futureisfoss @FediFollows @PaulaToThePeople @fediblock The fact that you can, in theory, pack your bags and move, is not a reason to ignore the above points, You give too much power and responsibility to a very small number of individuals (admins) and that cannot be sustainable or fair. Like I do not care about nudity and I do not regard it as an "issue", since that's beyond ridiculous. But then what if your league of "lets ban certain instances" decides to ban my instance simply because I allow others to post nudity? Then you "punish" all of us for that? Will this league-of-federated-gentleman become more and more powerful and we have to bow to it so we are not banned?
     
     Sorry but this is ridiculous. To punish lots of individuals at once by punishing instances, when anyone on the fediverse can easily block anyone they want.
   • Tio (tio@social.trom.tf)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Nov-2021 10:10:44 UTC Tio

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     @futureisfoss @FediFollows @PaulaToThePeople @fediblock And exactly that's the issue. Bad practice. What is the point of the fediverse if instance admins can block your access to other instances? Federation should be a protocol (activitypub) and should connect anyone who uses the protocol. As simple as that. You provide a communication tool, and whatever users communicate with each other and post, is their own "business".
   • FediFollows 👻 (fedifollows@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Nov-2021 10:10:45 UTC FediFollows 👻

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     @tio @futureisfoss @PaulaToThePeople @fediblock

     You're missing the point... there is no blanket banning on the Fediverse.

     There are thousands of independent instances all with their own rules, who make decisions independently.

     Each instance has the right to decide who it federates with, for whatever reason.

     Some instances block mastodon.online because it's very large, so they are also blocking me too. That's not punishment, that's just independent instances deciding their own priorities.

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   • Tio (tio@social.trom.tf)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Nov-2021 10:12:21 UTC Tio

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     • PaulaToThePeople :VeryQueer:
     @futureisfoss @FediFollows @PaulaToThePeople @fediblockFor example, an admin might not want to pay for costs of federating spam, so it is fine to warn them about spam instances.Spam is different. Instance admins are ofc free to ban anyone or anything, but they should make these decisions transparent. However banning entire instances should be the last resort. A better alternative is to not allow global feeds for example.