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1. Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 21-Nov-2021 21:43:16 UTC Bernie

   Another week, another plugin manager for vim...
   https://github.com/wbthomason/packer.nvim

   This one is written in #Lua and makes use of newly-added #neovim features... but is it worth the time to switch? VimPlug works just fine...

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 21-Nov-2021 22:03:02 UTC Bernie

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     • Hunter Jozwiak

     @sektor Hmm...
     vi started off as a visual frontend for the UNIX line editor "ed". This is where vim's ":" prompt comes from, and the motion commands are still the same.

     vim today still supports an "ex" mode, which is an extended version of ed.

     And I bet a non-visual editor integrates better with screen readers... but you tell me.

   • Hunter Jozwiak (sektor@itmslaves.com)'s status on Sunday, 21-Nov-2021 22:03:03 UTC Hunter Jozwiak

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     @codewiz I should get off my lazy ass and actually see if I can figure out how to get the screenreader to read the vim properly. If I press h, j, k, l nothing is read, but the arrow keys read things just fine.

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 21-Nov-2021 22:09:55 UTC Bernie

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     • Hunter Jozwiak

     By the way, ed was surprisingly powerful: Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie wrote all of UNIX and its C compiler on a tty. Not the modern vt100 terminals with a CRT - I mean the real paper typewriter thing!

     This explains why C and the UNIX shell had to be so terse... 😂

     But are there screen readers for programmers that do a good job reading C and Bash aloud?

     @sektor

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 21-Nov-2021 22:18:51 UTC Bernie

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     • Hunter Jozwiak

     @sektor I've never really used ex, but I think you can't just move around with the cursor keys...

     It prints lines when you type a line number, and I haven't figured out how to print a range of lines 😅

   • Hunter Jozwiak (sektor@itmslaves.com)'s status on Sunday, 21-Nov-2021 22:18:52 UTC Hunter Jozwiak

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     @codewiz Orca does a decent job in the GUI, with fenrir being an awesome CLI screenreader. I tried the Ex mode, and as I move the lines it says only the line number. I wonder if it is passing the arrow through to the operating system.

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 21-Nov-2021 22:19:45 UTC Bernie

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     • Hunter Jozwiak

     @sektor Ah, well, it uses comma, just like vi:
     https://www.cs.ait.ac.th/~on/O/oreilly/unix/vi/ch05_01.htm

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 21-Nov-2021 23:05:25 UTC Bernie

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     I actually tried out Packer and converted my neovim-only plugins from Plugger to Packer. It's not bad!

     Until #neovim replaces the classic #vim in most Linux distros, I want my .vimrc to work on both, so I am not going to convert everything to Lua.

     And so I ended up with two competing plugin managers in my text editor 😅

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 21-Nov-2021 23:05:39 UTC Bernie

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     • Srevin Saju

     @srevinsaju, do you use Packer?

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 00:47:47 UTC Bernie

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     Next, after freaking out at coq.nvim's complexity (it needs python3-venv and sqlite), I installed vim-cmp, which is entirely written in #Lua, and thus doesn't require compiling:
     https://github.com/hrsh7th/nvim-cmp

     #vim #neovim #programming

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 00:58:17 UTC Bernie

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     One thing I didn't initially understand is that #Neovim's built-in LSP client isn't enough to get autocmpletion!

     First, you need to configure which Language Server should be spawned for each file type you open. For this, there's nvim-lspconfig, which is maintained by the Neovim devs as a separate project:
     https://github.com/neovim/nvim-lspconfig

     But wait! The LSP configuration needs to be configured... in Lua, of course! And don't forget to define some mappings for "Go To Definition" etc...

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 01:11:37 UTC Bernie

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     Do we have #Rust completion yet? Not so fast!

     You see, #Neovim has builtin completion, but what you really want for programming is *autocompletion*, which requires an external plugin:
     https://github.com/neovim/nvim-lspconfig/wiki/Autocompletion#autocompletion-not-built-in-vs-completion-built-in

     It says nvim-cmp is the recommended plugin, so it will be easy to integrate, right?

     Easy peasy! My nvim-cmp configuration is only... 73 lines of #Lua config!

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 01:21:11 UTC Bernie

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     I copy-pasted most of the config, and when it breaks I'm not quite sure how to debug it.

     In fact, it's not working right now. If I open a Rust project and start typing, I get plenty of useless snippets instead of the semantic completion. I see rust-analyzer running and eating CPU time... I even see inline errors... so why?

     Why do I have to learn #Lua before I can code in #Rust?

     WHYYYY?!?! 😩

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 01:29:28 UTC Bernie

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     Hey, it seems I gave up too fast!

     My semantic completions were already in the menu, just BELOW the useless snippets...

     I guess I just I need to tweak my config to reorder them... and also use TAB to complete (instead of Enter)...

     ...and also figure out how to theme the menu so I don't get flashes of shocking pink while I'm trying to focus on the code 😂

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 02:31:12 UTC Bernie

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     • eriol 🍥

     @eriol Thank you so much for sharing!

     In spite of all the sarcasm, I _do_ believe that #neovim is on the right path... we need to get rid of the awful VimL and give plugin writers a solid base to work on.

     Perhaps better integration will come in time... but we also need the developers to pick good defaults to avoid the paradox of choice.

   • eriol 🍥 (eriol@pleroma.debian.social)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 02:31:24 UTC eriol 🍥

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     @codewiz maybe you already know, but to tweak the order of completions you can use priority or just order sources as you want them. I chose the latter:
     https://noa.mornie.org/eriol/ansible-collection-dotfiles/src/branch/main/roles/neovim/files/config/nvim/lua/plugins/nvim-cmp.lua#L47-L56
     
     I also moved recently to neovim (I think about 3 week ago), and I don't know lua (yet!) but I decided to full switch, so my conf is only lua.
   • eriol 🍥 (eriol@pleroma.debian.social)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 02:31:24 UTC eriol 🍥

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     • eriol 🍥
     @codewiz please feel free to take a look if it can help you:
     https://noa.mornie.org/eriol/ansible-collection-dotfiles/src/branch/main/roles/neovim/files/config/nvim
     
     Ignore the ansible layer on top, it's only because I have more than one machine were I want my stuff and all the other systems I tried (from pure git of the HOME to handcrafted Makefile, to home management software) did not worked well at the end.
   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 04:37:13 UTC Bernie

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     • eriol 🍥

     @eriol Hmm... I already had nvim_lsp as first entry in cmp.config.sources, so it must be something else.

     One difference between my configuration and yours is that I used vsnip instead of luasnip. I'll try switching, since I only really care about semantic completion with nvim_lsp at this time.

     By the way, your nvim config is *neat*! I can't believe you've been using it nly for 3 weeks.

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 04:47:32 UTC Bernie

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     • eriol 🍥

     @eriol Ah, after tweaking the menu appearance to show the completion source, I found out that those snippets were actually coming from rust-analyzer! 🤦

     I still need to figure out how to remove them, but that's prograss...

     This is how I added the cool icons:
     https://github.com/hrsh7th/nvim-cmp/wiki/Menu-Appearance

   • Srevin Saju (srevinsaju@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 04:47:39 UTC Srevin Saju

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     @codewiz Yes! I use packer and the experience was really good for me. Since I use neovim as a ~ IDE and vim as a simple text editor, I did not want to share the configuration between both, so I kept one simple and one complex.

     This is in my *.anyshrc

     alias vi=vim
     alias vim=neovim

     Bernie repeated this.
   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 04:55:34 UTC Bernie

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     • Srevin Saju

     @srevinsaju Thanks!

   • Srevin Saju (srevinsaju@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 04:55:35 UTC Srevin Saju

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     @codewiz I would also consider https://nvchad.github.io/getting-started/learn-lua as an interesting and useful resource for anyone new to the world of lua 😄

   • Srevin Saju (srevinsaju@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 04:55:36 UTC Srevin Saju

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     @codewiz Adding on to the default plugins, I have lervag/vimtex, github/copilot.vim, and hashivim/vim-terraform

   • Srevin Saju (srevinsaju@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 04:55:37 UTC Srevin Saju

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     @codewiz I used an out of the box configuration format so that I can get started with neovim with Lua faster!

     https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad

     It has most features and toolsets enabled by default, and also we can add our own custom configuration in a separate file, to make it modular.

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 05:14:07 UTC Bernie

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     • Srevin Saju
     • eriol 🍥

     @srevinsaju @eriol Could you please share the output of these commands on your vim?

     :hi Pmenu
     :hi PmenuSel
     :hi PmenuSbar
     :hi PmenuThumb

     I finally made my menu non-magenta, but I'm not good at matching colors...

   • Srevin Saju (srevinsaju@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 05:15:48 UTC Srevin Saju

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     • eriol 🍥

     @codewiz @eriol

     Pmenu xxx ctermfg=0 ctermbg=13 guifg=#abb2bf guibg=#282c34

     PmenuSel xxx ctermfg=242 ctermbg=0 guifg=#353b45 guibg=#A3BE8C

     PmenuSbar xxx ctermbg=248 guibg=#353b45

     PmenuThumb xxx ctermbg=15 guibg=#81A1C1

     btw, that probably uses my also favorite One Dark Theme, and would probably look like this

     (PS: thats github copilot with the suggestions)

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 05:23:16 UTC Bernie

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     • Srevin Saju
     • eriol 🍥

     @srevinsaju @eriol Nope. Your color scheme gives me that ugly magenta background.

     It's color 13 in the xterm-256 palette:
     https://www.ditig.com/256-colors-cheat-sheet

   • Srevin Saju (srevinsaju@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 05:29:44 UTC Srevin Saju

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     @codewiz Can you show the output of
     `:echo $TERM`

     ctermbg should actually be a fallback to guibg

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 05:37:47 UTC Bernie

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     • Srevin Saju

     @srevinsaju Oh, you probably have termguicolors set. I had to disable it because it made the text selection light gray. How did you override it?

   • Srevin Saju (srevinsaju@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 05:45:14 UTC Srevin Saju

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     @codewiz right now, I have nvchad doing the theming for me, because when I tried manually theming every component myself, I started breaking a lot of UI stuff 😅

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 06:30:36 UTC Bernie

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     • Srevin Saju
     • eriol 🍥

     @srevinsaju @eriol And that's what's been happening to me 😞

     I think I finally got it to work properly, but it wasn't easy nor fun:

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 06:41:53 UTC Bernie

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     • eriol 🍥

     @eriol Semantic completion in #neovim is starting to look and behave reasonably well, but I'm still getting those stupid snippets before the methods...

     Also, does LSP support assisted editing for function arguments?

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 22-Nov-2021 06:43:28 UTC Bernie

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     • Srevin Saju
     • eriol 🍥

     @eriol @srevinsaju I've also hit a bug in lsp-config and reported it to them (their bug report template is quite good!):

     https://github.com/neovim/nvim-lspconfig/issues/1471

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Nov-2021 07:14:03 UTC Bernie

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     • Srevin Saju
     • eriol 🍥

     @eriol @srevinsaju It's the oh-my-zsh way... a pre-baked, well maintained, extensible config with reasonable defaults.

   • eriol 🍥 (eriol@pleroma.debian.social)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Nov-2021 07:14:05 UTC eriol 🍥

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     @codewiz I fully agree with you on VimL, and I also hope that we will avoid the paradox of choice. It can be fun configure you editor but maybe you just want to use it!
     Maybe as showed by srevinsaju@mstdn.io the way is to provide ready to go configs... I really don't know.
   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Nov-2021 07:19:53 UTC Bernie

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     • Srevin Saju
     • eriol 🍥

     @eriol @srevinsaju My nvim-lspconfig bug was fixed in just 6 hours... great service, would buy again!

     #neovim #programming

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Nov-2021 07:49:45 UTC Bernie

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     • eriol 🍥

     @eriol It works! (and it took much less configuration than expected)

   • eriol 🍥 (eriol@pleroma.debian.social)'s status on Tuesday, 23-Nov-2021 07:49:46 UTC eriol 🍥

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     @codewiz for LSP support of function signature, I found this https://github.com/ray-x/lsp_signature.nvim that seems to do what we want but I have not tried it yet.
   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Thursday, 12-May-2022 17:53:22 UTC Bernie

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     • nick

     @codingHahn Yes, but I don't remember how I did it.

     Probably by overriding the completion sources:

     sources = cmp.config.sources({
     { name = 'nvim_lsp' },
     }, {
     { name = 'vsnip' },
     })

     This is my complete neovim config (the Lua part):
     https://codewiz.org/pub/bernie.lua

   • nick (codinghahn@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 12-May-2022 17:53:24 UTC nick

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     @codewiz Hey, have you managed to fix the snippets ordering? I am struggling with the same problem and haven't found a solution yet.