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1. Michael Downey :xr: (downey@floss.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Dec-2021 10:47:56 UTC Michael Downey :xr:

   • Eugen 💀
   • Mastodon

   Cool cool, @Gargron moving all @Mastodon project discussion behind a proprietary walled garden that requires agreement with Microsoft terms of service (and their analytics tracking). Now THAT makes a ton of sense. 🤦♂️

   #MastoAdmin #Mastodon #OpenSource #FreeSoftware #FLOSS #privacy

   https://discourse.joinmastodon.org/t/we-are-moving-to-github-discussions/4010

   • Eugen 💀 (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Dec-2021 10:47:49 UTC Eugen 💀

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     • Mastodon

     @downey @Mastodon Our bug tracker has always been on that proprietary walled garden, and everyone who has ever contributed code to Mastodon has an account on there. It only makes sense to move discussions that are so tightly related to bug tracking there so that people don't have to make an extra account, or check a separate site.

   • Tagomago (tagomago@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Dec-2021 10:52:08 UTC Tagomago

     in reply to

     • Eugen 💀
     • Mastodon

     @Gargron @downey @Mastodon It'd be nice that those of us who only try to report bugs don't have to sign up there, though. I use this (M.S.) to report them, but many times they pass unnoticed, I assume.

   • davidak@chaos.social's status on Friday, 10-Dec-2021 20:12:42 UTC davidak

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     • Eugen 💀
     • Codeberg.org

     @Gargron consolidation makes sense. The issue is to use a proprietary tool in the first place

     i recommend to actually read https://mako.cc/writing/hill-free_tools.html (or watch the talk instead)

     the development platform is part of the user experience when they report issuer or request features

     @codeberg is a great alternative to GitHub. It's a Gitea instance hosted by a german non-profit association. it does not have as many users as github, but if that would be a criterion we should go back to twitter

     @downey

   • Eugen 💀 (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Dec-2021 20:12:50 UTC Eugen 💀

     in reply to

     • davidak
     • Codeberg.org

     @davidak @codeberg @downey Using tools that suffer from the network effect problem when you are trying to develop a tool that suffers from the network effect problem is needlessly increasing the difficulty of what you are trying to do.

     Will using a custom GitLab/Gitea server add barriers for developer contributions? Yes

     Will using a custom GitLab/Gitea server help Mastodon gain more users? No