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1. Christian Horn (globalc@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 16:43:38 UTC Christian Horn

   #Bitcoin singlehandedly undid ALL the environmental good of electric vehicles in 2021, and consumed almost 2X as much energy as in 2020.
   https://twitter.com/Cord__/status/1477886739972829184

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 16:43:34 UTC Bernie

     in reply to

     • Janne

     @jb @globalc Electricity used for mining Bitcoin causes emissions, while electricity used by EVs removes them? 🤔

   • Janne (jb@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 03-Jan-2022 16:43:36 UTC Janne

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     @globalc Imagine future where we have advanced as civilisation to gather energy direclty from stars ... just to continue with this crypto shitshow. In that scenario I consider our civilization to be an epic failure.

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jan-2022 07:06:58 UTC Bernie

     in reply to

     • Brandon Hartshorn

     @bhart The point I was trying to make was that the amount of energy used is the wrong metric.

     A solar panel can generate energy with no emissions, and you could use that energy to mine crypto or to to drive around in a cybertruck.

     So I'm not nit-picking to distract from the message; I'm pointing out that the message in question (*) is an attempt to mislead the public by someone with a political agenda.

     (*) "Bitcoin singlehandedly undid ALL the environmental good of electric vehicles in 2021"

   • Brandon Hartshorn (bhart@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jan-2022 07:06:59 UTC Brandon Hartshorn

     in reply to

     • Bernie

     @codewiz is this a good-faith nitpick or an attempt to derail and distract from the message?

     For those reading along: each electric vehicle "produces" some amount less emissions than a combustion vehicle. Take all those "savings" combined. The electricity used for bitcoin causes more emissions than that value.

     It is *not* an argument for EVs. Simply a comparison. In fact, it could be used as a pretty good argument that EVs are not a sufficient solution.

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jan-2022 07:33:57 UTC Bernie

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     • Brandon Hartshorn

     @bhart To be 100% clear: I'm not saying that Bitcoin miners are using 100% renewable energy.

     Mining *is* very bad and wasteful, but the comparison to EVs is trying to make it look worse than wasting electricity for other reasons. And this is what triggered my bullshit detector.