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1. Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jan-2022 21:24:19 UTC Bernie

   Initial Sound Open Firmware Support For AMD Hardware Comes With Linux 5.17
   https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.17-Sound

   #AMD ♥️ #Linux

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jan-2022 21:28:19 UTC Bernie

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     One less blocker in the way of getting a #Ryzen laptop.

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 16-Jan-2022 21:36:03 UTC Bernie

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     I wish AMD contributed a bit more to #Coreboot to close the gap with Intel:
     https://system76.com/laptops
     #system76

   • Patrick Georgi (patrick@georgi.family)'s status on Monday, 17-Jan-2022 08:02:09 UTC Patrick Georgi

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     @codewiz I don't think the issue is with firmware development support (which is horrible for all vendors) but on the hardware side: apparently it's much easier to do a small-scale laptop production run with Intel than it is with AMD.
     
     With Intel you can get a reference design, maybe even some support through some inept intern to help you sort out your customizations before you've sold the first Intel chip. With AMD you won't even get a phone call with their sales rep if the expected $$$ is too low (or so I've heard).
     
     Simple reason: Intel can afford to waste lots of time on customers that usually get nowhere if that also means that they'll invest in the potential biggest computer vendor of the following decade (who will be nudged to optimize their workflow to work with Intel, and Intel only).
   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 17-Jan-2022 08:06:27 UTC Bernie

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     • Patrick Georgi

     @patrick It seems to me that working with highly visible projects like Coreboot would have more strategic value that just helping small customers.

     Perhaps it's just my perception, but all Chromebooks shipping Coreboot isn't a small market...

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 17-Jan-2022 08:07:39 UTC Bernie

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     • Patrick Georgi

     @patrick Wait... who's selling these?

     https://www.amd.com/en/processors/chromebook

   • Patrick Georgi (patrick@georgi.family)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 20:18:27 UTC Patrick Georgi

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     @codewiz You need both. The coreboot side is covered now due to Chrome OS firmware supporting it (same as with Intel post-Sandy Bridge) - but if the first impulse of any device vendor is to go for Intel because it's easier to crank out devices with them, even "highly visible" stuff like coreboot (only highly visible in certain bubbles in my experience) doesn't help.
     
     As for AMD contributing more: https://review.coreboot.org/61045 (following https://review.coreboot.org/58190) indicates that they've been looking for a coreboot developer for half a year... (those are editing https://coreboot.org/jobs.html btw)
   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 20:18:51 UTC Bernie

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     • Patrick Georgi

     The Less Than Ideal State Of AMD Open-Source Firmware Support In 2022
     https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-OSF-2022
     @patrick #coreboot #amd #ryzen #linux

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 20:18:56 UTC Bernie

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     • Patrick Georgi

     The Less Than Ideal State Of AMD Open-Source Firmware Support In 2022
     https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-OSF-2022
     @patrick

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 20:24:39 UTC Bernie

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     • Patrick Georgi

     @patrick I'll keep waiting for a good lightweight laptop with Coreboot and a current generation AMD or Intel CPU.

   • Patrick Georgi (patrick@georgi.family)'s status on Saturday, 05-Feb-2022 20:24:40 UTC Patrick Georgi

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     @codewiz AMD being AMD, again :-/
     
     There are a few non-Chromebook projects out there, I suppose they have their own "give us the FSP" contracts in place.