Notices by XMPP server (xmpp@mastodon.social), page 6

@l Login ""stride" bis busy, choose another login

@l Write the desired login, I will privately send a temporary password and account

@l The picture with the CAPTCHA becomes obsolete after a while
https://404.city:8443/register/new

@l Yes

@krille This is a good app. In this case, yes, but I'm not talking about this application.

@krille In this case, yes, but I'm not talking about this application.

@nipos @krille
Yes, XMPP gives more choice. XMPP must be understood, it does not provide one option out of the box. But it is technically possible to make all servers come with the same configuration. In other words, you can create a Matrix server in XMPP

@nipos @krille
ou are wrong. On well-configured servers, messages appear on all devices. For the delivery of messages using the same mechanisms. Matrix servers store history. This ensures the delivery of messages. On servers XMPP, storing history is optional. This is because some people protest against the preservation of history.

@nipos @krille Technological solutions in the matrix are not liked in XMPP, because they consider it to be erroneous. According to most XMPP developers, the matrix itself undeservedly calls the best protocol. The matrix protocol is poor.The matrix is just a beautiful client and there is money to develop it. The matrix is supported by investors. XMPP does not have sponsors

@krille The matrix should not have written its own protocol. The matrix could be to the XEP Jsone addition to the Ejabberd server. Then the matrix would receive 20,000 decentralized servers without effort. I believe that the Matrix chose the wrong way to separate from XMPP. For Riot, it would be best to use the xmpp protocol by adding the necessary Jsone+Webrtc extensions to XMPP servers.

@krille You did not understand. Encryption by default is not possible in browsers, because you can intercept the cipher Matrix. At us in XMPP therefore do not want to do encryption by default. In the matrix in general, often make dubious decisions about the protocol. Many matrix protocol solutions are considered dirty in XMPP.

@Vamp898 @Skoll3 @Igeljaeger
After you go into the browser in the matrix, anyone can read your encrypted correspondence. Congratulations!

@Vamp898 @Skoll3 @Igeljaeger
Yes, Federation ≠ Decentralized. XMPP is still decentralized, in addition to federalization. The matrix is centralized, though federation. Now we can centrally accept bad practices Matrix)
We will add encryption, where there can be no encryption and create leaks Matrix. We will centrally create the falling Matrix server, because it's fashionable.

@Vamp898 @Skoll3 @Igeljaeger
Mastodon is not a centralized structure. Mastodon has never been centralized.Matrix(2014) created before Mastodon (2016) According to the developers, the matrix appeared as a break from XMPP .According to the developers, they did not like the decentralization of XMPP. Now this information is already deleted from the site, it is a pity

@vurpo I could not translate what you wrote

@Vamp898 @Skoll3 @Igeljaeger
There are not several large servers. There is only 1 large server matrix.org that is offered to use by default

@l
Use web-registrations.
Some users report problems with registration in xmpp clients. Capcha should be updated every few seconds, but it is not loaded twice.

Some #Matrix developers are so afraid of the mentioned #XMPP vs #Matrix that they send fake complaints to accounts with the mention XMPP vs The Matrix of Twitter.
Yes, The Matrix you have poor encryption and poor servers.
You are centralized, although you pretend to be decentralized.

Some #Matrix developers are so afraid of the mentioned #XMPP that they send fake complaints to accounts with the mention XMPP vs The Matrix of Twitter.
Yes, The Matrix you have poor encryption and poor servers.
You are centralized, although you pretend to be decentralized.