@Sphinx there arent too many things that end in the word pie that arent good.
Notices by 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org), page 113
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 21:41:13 UTC
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 21:37:53 UTC
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I presume you agree with the two axioms you already stated earlier for our derivation (you provided):
\(E = {m}_{rel} \cdot {C}^{2}\)
and
\({E}^{2} = {p}^{2} \cdot {C}^{2} + {{m}_{rest}}^{2} \cdot {C}^{4}\)
Correct, if so I will be happy to use these as our axioms for the derivation.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 21:37:28 UTC
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I presume you agree with the two axioms you already stated earlier for our derivation (you provided):
\(E = {m}_{rel} \dot {C}^{2}\)
and
\({E}^{2} = {p}^{2} \cdot {C}^{2} + {{m}_{rest}}^2 \cdot {C}^{4}\)
Correct, if so I will be happy to use these as our axioms for the derivation.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 21:37:02 UTC
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I presume you agree with the two axioms you already stated earlier for our derivation (you provided):
\(E = {m}_{rel} \dot {C}^{2}\)
and
\({E}^{2} = {p}^{2} \dot {C}^{2} + {{m}_{rest}}^2 \dot {C}^{4}\)
Correct, if so I will be happy to use these as our axioms for the derivation.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 21:33:29 UTC
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I presume you agree with the two axioms you already stated earlier for our derivation (you provided):
\(E = m_{rel} \dot C^2\)
and
\(E^2 = p^2 \dot C^2 + {m_{rest}}^2 \dot C^4\)
Correct, if so I will be happy to use these as our axioms for the derivation.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 21:28:10 UTC
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Ok I now have some time to help you understand the real positive value of relativistic mass.
Which equation would you like me to derrive from? I believe you had a math question, it got lost in the thread, what was it?
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 21:20:18 UTC
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Not exactly what he said, only that it is a way of thinking about it that doesnt lead to good intuition. It is real and positive mathematically and works if you know how to use it. But it is not real mass it is perceived mass (it acts as if it has tat mass when in motion).
This is pretty much all that he was saying.
By the way you asked for the equation for relativistic mass that gives a real positive value, I already provided this equation to you:
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 21:08:21 UTC
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@zeccano
I just watched it, he never said relativistic mass was 0 in that video, -
🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 21:06:32 UTC
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@design_RG No, which is how I know the treatment is working!
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 21:03:12 UTC
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If the professor literally said "Photons do not have relativistic mass" then yes, he was wrong, Though I am skeptical he said this.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 21:02:18 UTC
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I'm saying nothing of the sort, didnt even hear what he said yet. I am simply telling you that **you** are wrong, That may be due to you misunderstanding the professor
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 20:57:57 UTC
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I will show you the derrivation to relativistic math, at that point I wont really continue with much more absurdity. But since your willing to work through the math ill give you one last enefit of the doubt
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 20:56:44 UTC
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Infinity is not a number, it is something you approach, undefined is the result of an undefined equation.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 20:54:36 UTC
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I already showed you that equation earlier, now you want me to derrive it from a new equation, which I will do once I have a chance and am by a computer to look.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 20:53:45 UTC
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All credible scientists claim photons have relative mass but no rest mass. I dont know what this random guy says, I didnt look yet.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 20:03:52 UTC
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@zeccano
I mean thats wrong, but hey it sounds all nice and sciency atleast, lol. Ill show you the actual equation when im near my conputer -
🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 18:47:57 UTC
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@zeccano
I did t read it in detail yet, as i said im not near a computer, but i have solves the equation for relativistic mass before and it ia nonzero. So i will show you that aokution when i get home.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 17:31:46 UTC
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I feel a bout of malaria coming on, better safe than sorry.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 17:28:51 UTC
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More Sinterklaas epicness.
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🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Nov-2019 14:49:23 UTC
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Shits about to get real, its Ollieballen time in Utrecht!! Happy Sinterklaas everyone!