Notices by 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org), page 62

@design_RG yes.

@design_RG find the cost to ship, let me know what you'd be willing to part with it for and I'll let ya know.

@design_RG Mine is stuck in philly and I would never risk moving it. Have any interest in selling one?

@design_RG I bought this keyboard when it was new when I was like 6 or 8 years old or something. Brand new. I still have it and it still works after 30 some years.

@werekat Yea exactly. Though it is a nice stick to beat people with when they start getting an attitude in a political debate :)

@werekat Sadly polls have very limited text limitations. So I was somewhat restricted in my wording.

@werekat Its certainly a very common mistake. Though to be fair a lot of words are used incorrectly by people who arent too critical about the actual meaning. Nothing wrong with that, it happens.

@werekat Nothing wrong with that "mistake" really, but the option was meant as a joke.

But the common "venacular" definition doesnt mean "removal from office" the layperson definition according to the dictionary is actually "the action of calling into question the integrity or validity of something."

There is also a definition which doesnt disagree with the senate hearing which is "a charge of misconduct made against the holder of a public office."

However if you use the word impeachment to mean "someone who has been removed from office" generally speaking you are using the word incorrectly even in its vernacular form.

@design_RG If she werent married I'd probably pick Hannah Fry

@design_RG Well I'd pick a car but its only purpose would be to pick her up and drop her off. It would likely be a nice car but not overly pricey or flashy. I want to make sure whatever first impression I make would be a sustainable one should I get a second date.

@design_RG I dont know who but i know what I'd do.I'd find a quiet place alone for us to chat, have a private dinner maybe or something, and hang out.

Anywhere public would get too much attentiona nd distract from enjoying the person. Moreover, I would expect any one famous would be used to people showing them off like a trophy and few people would want to just get to know them as an ordinary person. So I see it as a sort of date that would be more rewarding for both of us, at least if its my only and first date with the person.

That said I dont find many famous people appealing largely because I am not attracted to the sort of personality that would thrive when exposed to fame. So I really dont know who I'd pick.

@CCoinTradingIdeas Thats not really valid. I suspect you may not completely understand what hearsay means legally.

If someone is actually in the room when the call is conducted or is listening in on the call, this isnt hearsay legally, it is considered direct evidence.

Hearsay would be overhearing trump talk abotu being guilty to someone else while not actually overhearing the incident which he is guilty of.

@design_RG Ok so just checked some facts.

1) I was correct that the trial that follows impreachment is not criminal in nature, the reasoning can be as simple as improper conduct, or as severe as a criminal act. The exact wording according to senate.gov is this "if a federal official commits a crime or otherwise acts improperly, the House of Representatives may impeach" so it does not necessarily imply criminality occured.

2) it is further not really a jury or criminal trial in any sense because there is no possiblity of conviction should the vote pass for any criminal consequnces. The only consequence that the president can face as a result of the senate hearing would be being barred from holding office

3) you are correct in the fact that the chief justice of the supreme court ultimately presides over the hearing and gets to be a gatekeeper of what evidence is presented, what is not, who gets subpoenaed, etc. But keep in mind the senate is fundementally different than a jurt in the sense that before the hearing they already heard all the evidence unrestricted from the impeachment hearings. So while normally a jury is choosen to be unbiased and have no previous knowledge, and thus the judge gets to decide what evidence they hear, this doesnt apply to the senate. So it would still be improper to see them as a jury.

4) side note, once a president is removed from office, and only then, can a separate criminal trial be held where criminality is determined. however it is likely the case that the new president (since he was the president's vice) will simply pardon him and prevent him from facing criminal charges. This is what happened with nixon.

@design_RG I take back what I said, doing more research on this...

@design_RG Well juror isnt the right word. Even if they vote to kick him out of office that does not require or imply he did anything illegal. Impeachment is not a criminal court.

@CCoinTradingIdeas I'm not sure i have the time to recap the impeachment trials for you, ill get you a link when i have time

@EMPEROR

I suppose, but there is more than enough sleaze from both dems and republicans, it never slowed down either party before.

@CCoinTradingIdeas

@EMPEROR

That makes the assumption that biden will even be the one who wins the primaries and goes up against Bush. If it isnt Biden but rather another candidate that wins the primaries then it does nothing to hurt the democrat's chances.

@CCoinTradingIdeas

@CCoinTradingIdeas The senate will be a hard win, needing 2/3rds vote when everyone has been voting party lines for years, yea chances are he wont be removed from office.

But that was never the democrats goals I suspect. All they wanted to do was bring trump's illicit behaviors to light and make it look official. Their goal was to dirty his name and hurt his chances for reelection.

In that regard it seems they are having some limited success. There is no doubt it hurt his popularity and his chance of winning the 2020 election.