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  1. Erik Kemp 🇪🇺 (erik@mastodon.utwente.nl)'s status on Monday, 25-Apr-2022 22:32:31 UTC Erik Kemp 🇪🇺 Erik Kemp 🇪🇺

    Any reason to join the #fediverse is a good one. For microblogging, join #mastodon. Video creator? Join #peertube! Into pictures? Join #pixelfed! Into books? Join #bookwyrm! Do you organise events? Join #Mobilizon!

    You can subscribe to all of those services from one account. It's like following Instagram (Zuck), YouTube (Brin and Page) and Goodreads (Bezos) accounts from Twitter (Musk)!

    Publish-subscribe at its finest, brought to you by the #openstandard #activitypub: https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/.

    In conversation Monday, 25-Apr-2022 22:32:31 UTC from mastodon.utwente.nl permalink
  2. fanta (fanta@asocial.56k.es)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2019 19:41:22 UTC fanta fanta
    @spla @tagomago @jordila el tema es que por tener se tienen millones de posibilidades.

    El problema no es lo posible. Una persona con un mínimo de experiencia programando REST, SOAP, ... puede idear nuevos protocolos. Y puede basarse en algunos modelos como OStatus, activityPUMP, ... e inventarse nuevos protocolos.

    Lo chulo de ActivityPub es que parte de un grupo que busca una estandarización. Un grupo diverso https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/ .

    Por ejemplo está en ese grupo Evan Prodromou pero también máquinas como Jessica Tallon, Amy Guy, ...

    Gente variada tanto en su sexualidad como en sus skills.

    Yo creo que podemos seguir usando FTP también. Los clientes como por ejemplo Filezilla suelen permitir al día de hoy FTP y SFTP. Y la gente con 2 dedos de frente usa SFTP para transferir archivos en vez de FTP que viajará el tema en plano, que es inseguro por eso mismo.

    Es conocido que el conjunto de protocolos que utiliza GNUSOCIAL no es seguro para por ejemplo mensajes privados.

    Y eso es importante. Tener posibles está bien. Pero hoy todo sería como apple si cada uno hace lo que le da la gana. Los ordenadores no tendrían usb o hdmi. Tendrían cada uno el de su fabricante.

    Y Activitypub es libre, abierto, standard, ... y basado en décadas de experiencias anteriores (cuentan con Evan que es el que de algún modo inicio esta re-evolución).
    In conversation Monday, 11-Nov-2019 19:41:22 UTC from asocial.56k.es permalink
  3. fanta (fanta@asocial.56k.es)'s status on Thursday, 07-Nov-2019 20:17:16 UTC fanta fanta
    in reply to
    @colegota

    ActivityPub es un standar W3C desde 2018.

    "ActivityPub is a standard for the Internet in the Social Web Networking Group of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)"

    ActivityPub - https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/

    OStatus no. Claro que no.

    "In January 2012, a W3C Community Group was opened to maintain and further develop the OStatus standard. However, this was eclipsed by the work of the W3C Federated Social Web Working Group, launched in July 2014.[9] This working group focused on creating a newer standard, called ActivityPub, based on the protocols used in pump.io, which has been standardized as a successor to OStatus."

    Se puede nadar contra corriente lo que se quiera. Pero acusar a otros proyectos de software libre de no querer un fediverso creo que es una pataleta infantil.

    No se trata de quedarse obsoleto (que lo está gnusocial). Se trata que desde 2012 se sabe que esto pasaría.

    De algún modo recuerda GNUSOCIAL a APPLE cuando saca conectores que no son standard. No puedes pretender un standard de facto cuando no queda comunidad de usuarios para defender ya lo indefendible.

    El fediverso pasa por poder hablar un mismo protocolo. Que la comunicación m2m (máquina a máquina) hablen el mismo lenguaje.

    En fin. La vida :).
    In conversation Thursday, 07-Nov-2019 20:17:16 UTC from asocial.56k.es permalink
  4. Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Apr-2019 18:53:56 UTC Strypey Strypey
    in reply to

    #WardCunningham said:
    > "I have consulted https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/ in order to understand this request. I'm not there yet. Maybe you could elaborate in terms used in the overview, client and server, for example. I imagine this could be implemented as a wiki server-side plugin similar to what we have done with RSS. Since the plugin would be receiving content it would help me to understand how you would expect identity to be handled."

    Totally above my paygrade. Help?

    In conversation Tuesday, 02-Apr-2019 18:53:56 UTC from mastodon.nzoss.nz permalink
  5. Jorge (soloojos@squeet.me)'s status on Thursday, 25-Jan-2018 16:00:45 UTC Jorge Jorge
    ♲ @Nextcloud News (unofficial) (ncnews@libranet.de):

    ActivityPub: the new standard for decentralized networks

    Today, the World Wide Web gained a new standard: ActivityPub. https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/ The recommendation has been published by the responsible W3C workgroup after 3 years of work, started in no small part by Christopher Lemmer Webber, founder of the Mediagoblin project. Nextcloud uses ActivityPub, implementing it to handle Activity federation between servers, crucial for our Global Scale architecture. https://nextcloud.com/globalscale
    And indeed, you may already be using ActivityPub now without realizing it.

    –Christopher Lemmer Webber

    Nextcloud and ActivityPub

    Nextcloud implements ActivityPup to inform users about changes to their files, new calendar and so on between users on different Nextcloud servers since Nextcloud 12. This makes ActivityPup part of what makes Nextcloud Global Scale work! https://nextcloud.com/globalscale

    The Activity app which implements ActivityPub will continue to be improved, as its role has expanded over the years to inform users about a lot of things beyond file changes. Its core developer, Joas, blogged earlier about his todo list for the year, https://www.schilljs.com/2018/01/10/nextcloud-2018.html including changes to the Activity App.


    Illustration of how ActivityPub works from W3.org

    What is ActivityPub

    The origins of ActivityPub trace back to microblogging technology StatusNet, the former Laconia which was first widely implemented at identi.ca. Identi.ca has since migrated to pump.io, the successor to OStatus and the protocol it implements is essentially the base of ActivityPub. Evan Prodromou, the original author of Laconia and pump.io, designed the new protocol to use Activity Streams for commands and transfer data via a simple REST inbox API. The best place to get started to learn more about the protocol is on the W3.org website. https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#Overview

    Christopher Lemmer Webber wrote a guest post https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/victory-for-libre-networks-activitypub-is-now-a-w3c-recommended-standard on the Free Software Foundation blog explaining some history and features of the protocol. It provides a server-server protocol for federation and a client-server protocol for users to connect to a server. The core idea of ActivityPub is to bring together decentralized social networks, gaining critical user mass while keeping data on separate servers.

    The popular Twitter alternative Mastodon is a prominent user, same goes for Mediagoblin which aims more at sharing photos and videos. And, then, Nextcloud of course!- - - - - -

    https://nextcloud.com/blog/activitypub-the-new-standard-for-decentralized-networks/ https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/
    #nextcloud #activitypub
    In conversation Thursday, 25-Jan-2018 16:00:45 UTC from squeet.me permalink
  6. Nextcloud News (unofficial) (ncnews@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 25-Jan-2018 13:31:11 UTC Nextcloud News (unofficial) Nextcloud News (unofficial)
    ActivityPub: the new standard for decentralized networks

    Today, the World Wide Web gained a new standard: ActivityPub. https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/ The recommendation has been published by the responsible W3C workgroup after 3 years of work, started in no small part by Christopher Lemmer Webber, founder of the Mediagoblin project. Nextcloud uses ActivityPub, implementing it to handle Activity federation between servers, crucial for our Global Scale architecture. https://nextcloud.com/globalscale
    And indeed, you may already be using ActivityPub now without realizing it.
    –Christopher Lemmer Webber

    Nextcloud and ActivityPub



    Nextcloud implements ActivityPup to inform users about changes to their files, new calendar and so on between users on different Nextcloud servers since Nextcloud 12. This makes ActivityPup part of what makes Nextcloud Global Scale work! https://nextcloud.com/globalscale

    The Activity app which implements ActivityPub will continue to be improved, as its role has expanded over the years to inform users about a lot of things beyond file changes. Its core developer, Joas, blogged earlier about his todo list for the year, https://www.schilljs.com/2018/01/10/nextcloud-2018.html including changes to the Activity App.


    Illustration of how ActivityPub works from W3.org

    What is ActivityPub



    The origins of ActivityPub trace back to microblogging technology StatusNet, the former Laconia which was first widely implemented at identi.ca. Identi.ca has since migrated to pump.io, the successor to OStatus and the protocol it implements is essentially the base of ActivityPub. Evan Prodromou, the original author of Laconia and pump.io, designed the new protocol to use Activity Streams for commands and transfer data via a simple REST inbox API. The best place to get started to learn more about the protocol is on the W3.org website. https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#Overview

    Christopher Lemmer Webber wrote a guest post https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/victory-for-libre-networks-activitypub-is-now-a-w3c-recommended-standard on the Free Software Foundation blog explaining some history and features of the protocol. It provides a server-server protocol for federation and a client-server protocol for users to connect to a server. The core idea of ActivityPub is to bring together decentralized social networks, gaining critical user mass while keeping data on separate servers.

    The popular Twitter alternative Mastodon is a prominent user, same goes for Mediagoblin which aims more at sharing photos and videos. And, then, Nextcloud of course!
    https://nextcloud.com/blog/activitypub-the-new-standard-for-decentralized-networks/
    In conversation Thursday, 25-Jan-2018 13:31:11 UTC from libranet.de permalink
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