@dk @clayton that's the interesting part of different perceptions, my impression is that it's not the Signal project that's toxic, but more the people who religiously refuse to acknowledge that Signal has made some pragmatic decisions to bring encrypted messaging to the masses (and is extremely successful with it, more than everyone before them) and claim that Signal is either a honeypot or a scam or other things in very… tinfoily ways, because it cannot be (or must not be) that they are …