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1. 9to5Linux (9to5linux@floss.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 09:48:27 UTC 9to5Linux

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   #Fedora Linux 40 to Offer #KDE Plasma 6 on #Wayland by Default and Drop the X11 Session https://9to5linux.com/fedora-linux-40-to-offer-the-kde-plasma-6-desktop-on-wayland-and-drop-x11-session

   @kde #Linux #OpenSource

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 14:32:43 UTC Bernie

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     @solicitor @9to5linux @kde Indeed!

     It was auto-fetched from the url when I created the post, but they must have edited the article afterwards!

   • Solicitor (solicitor@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 14:32:46 UTC Solicitor

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     @9to5linux @kde the screenshot does not reflect the title of your article (fedora 38 with KDE plasma 5.27 instead of fedora 40 "in development" with KDE plasma 6.0) 😹

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 14:41:45 UTC Bernie

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     @lebout2canap @9to5linux @kde Oh no, with Wayland we can no longer spy on kids, so terrible! 🙀

   • lebout2canap ⏚ (lebout2canap@mastodon.tedomum.net)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 14:41:57 UTC lebout2canap ⏚

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     @9to5linux @kde As a user of GNOME under Wayland, one might think that this news would delight me, but on the contrary it saddens me to see an option disappear from the Linux offer in schools: no software for monitoring and controlling computers students operate under Wayland, starting with Veyon which is the reference. And for the moment there is no progress to be expected from Veyon, which is waiting for Wayland to offer monitoring software the possibility of working: https://github.com/veyon/veyon/issues/860.

   • greypilgrim (greypilgrim@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 14:43:52 UTC greypilgrim

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     @9to5linux @kde I hope some missing clipboard functionality works before then. And keepassxc currently can’t auto type to a window in Wayland.

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 14:43:52 UTC Bernie

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     @greypilgrim @9to5linux @kde You mean primary selection between X and Wayland apps? KDE Plasma finally fixed it one year ago. More recently, they fixed the big where clipboard contents got lost when the origin app quits.

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 14:45:26 UTC Bernie

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     • lebout2canap ⏚

     @lebout2canap @9to5linux @kde Sorry, couldn't resist 😜

     I understand that missing this anti-feature might get Linux banned from certain schools...

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 15:08:52 UTC Bernie

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     • lebout2canap ⏚

     @lebout2canap @9to5linux @kde btw, I didn't know open source software existed for this...

     If schools require installing monitoring software, students and their parents should be able to verify that it won't do something malicious or questionable.

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 15:15:38 UTC Bernie

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     @greypilgrim @9to5linux @kde Ah, didn't know that. Is clipboard sharing broken even with GNOME Boxes? Sometimes it's just a matter of finding newer software with proper Wayland support.

   • greypilgrim (greypilgrim@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 15:15:39 UTC greypilgrim

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     @9to5linux @codewiz @kde I will have to do some new testing.

     If you run a VM guest with Wayland, you can’t share clipboard between host and guest, which is a deal breaker for my work setup. Last I tried was several months ago though.

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 15:30:04 UTC Bernie

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     @greypilgrim @9to5linux @kde I admit it, it has taken way too long to iron out all these issues, but I think it's finally time to start dropping native X11 sessions (keeping XWayland for legacy apps).

     Focusing development and QA resources on a single platform will bring more benefits than harm to users at this point.

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 23:20:13 UTC Bernie

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     @greypilgrim @9to5linux @kde Some related commits were merged and later cherry-picked to the 5.27 branch in August:
     https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=459389#c22

   • greypilgrim (greypilgrim@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 23:20:14 UTC greypilgrim

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     @codewiz @9to5linux @kde This describes my experience:

     https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/11xovxh/clipboard_copypaste_sharing_does_not_work_on_kde/

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 23:23:11 UTC Bernie

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     The bug isn't marked fixed, but you might want to try again with 5.27.8 and let the developers know if anything changed:
     https://kde.org/announcements/changelogs/plasma/5/5.27.7-5.27.8/

     @greypilgrim @9to5linux @kde #wayland #kde #plasma

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Sep-2023 09:13:39 UTC Bernie

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     Perhaps relevant news:
     https://www.phoronix.com/news/Flatpak-1.18-Released

     @greypilgrim @9to5linux @kde

   • greypilgrim (greypilgrim@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Sep-2023 09:13:40 UTC greypilgrim

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     @codewiz @9to5linux @kde Yeah, that was linked from the Reddit post, right? I saw it.

     Plasma 5.27.8 in my Fedora KDE VM with Wayland session: clipboard sharing does not work.

     Same VM but in X11 session: clipboard sharing works.