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1. Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 22:17:54 UTC Bernie

   Last time I was in Japan, my friend Yoko bought a Rikuro cheesecake with raisins.

   Yoko's husband Yutaka doesn't eat raisins, but the box has specific instructions for him:

   ５番はりくろーおじさんマークがそのまま残り、かつレーズンが入っていないチーズケーキ

   Number 5 is a cheesecake with the Rikuro Uncle mark left intact, and without raisins. 😲

   #japanese #japan

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 22:24:04 UTC Bernie

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     This refers to the center piece of the cake if you cut it in 9 pieces as shown in the diagram on the box.

     And, sure enough, there were no raisins on piece number 5! 🤩

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 22:26:48 UTC Bernie

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     The Rikuro-ojisan mark was also there, just not as clearly visible as in this stock photo.

     #japan #food

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 22:34:53 UTC Bernie

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     I asked Bard to look at my picture and explain the instructions step by step.

     Not bad, Bard! Are you already on Gemini Pro?

     #japanese #bard #gemini

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 13:18:19 UTC Bernie

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     • penguin42

     @penguin42 Well... actually, the #Japanese word for cheese is チーズ (chīzu) and cake is ケーキ (kēkii) 😄

   • penguin42 (penguin42@mastodon.org.uk)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 13:18:20 UTC penguin42

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     @codewiz Now I'd love the history of how they got that phonetic of cheesecake rather than whatever the Japanese is for cheese and cake.

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 13:18:45 UTC Bernie

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     • penguin42

     @penguin42 There's also 乾酪 (kanraku) which means cheese, but I never heard anyone use this word!

     https://jisho.org/word/%E4%B9%BE%E9%85%AA

   • Bernie (codewiz@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 14:54:22 UTC Bernie

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     • penguin42
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     @penguin42 @kevin There's a native word for milk, 牛乳 (gyuu-nyuu). The first character means cow, the second one means milk or breasts. I think it's more specific than ミルク (miruku), and both are commonly used.

     There is also a native #Japanese word for cheese: 乾酪 (kanraku) = dried dairy, but I've never seen it in real life.

     https://jisho.org/word/%E4%B9%BE%E9%85%AA

   • penguin42 (penguin42@mastodon.org.uk)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 14:54:23 UTC penguin42

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     • Kevin

     @kevin @codewiz Of course, but the interesting thing is why they needed/use them; it looks like they didn't have dairy cows until relatively recently (1750s ish?) - but might have had some cheese long ago ( https://gochisohistory.com/cheese-dairy-in-japan/ ). Did they not have anything cake like until they got to borrow the word from English?

   • Kevin (kevin@dice.camp)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Dec-2023 14:54:30 UTC Kevin

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     • penguin42

     @penguin42 @codewiz They are just loan words for imported foods, music/fiction genres, sports, etc. English has plenty of them too!