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1. Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2017 10:28:12 UTC Bob Mottram

   • Danyl Strype
   @strypey They're talking about the death of empire as if that was a bad thing
   • tuttle_(defunct) (tuttle@somsants.net)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2017 10:45:00 UTC tuttle_(defunct)

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     @bob The death of the empire is inevitable. One way or the other, this shit is going down.
   • Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 26-Mar-2017 10:57:45 UTC Bob Mottram

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     • Danyl Strype
     @strypey just replace the "crony" capitalism with "real" capitalism [yawn]. Big governments are to blame [yawn]. Hyperinflation! [snooze] Fiat! [doze] Founding fathers! [snore] Immorality everywhere! [yawn]
     
     This sounds like the familiar criticisms from the right. That there are good and bad capitalists, and that the bad ones took over. The good capitalists should be "rewarded with profits" and the bad ones should be banished. Don't mention whose profits or where they came from.
     
     I don't doubt that governments are evil, but there are all kinds of problems with the narrative of the right. Why is gold some kind of fetish. They say creating money is bad, but all money is created somehow by someone. Are people with savings more virtuous than those without? If money is just a proxy for labour power isn't holding other people's labour to ransom immoral? All this obsession with "founding fathers" seems ridiculous. Even cursory historical analysis shows they were no saints.