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1. Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2017 23:38:11 UTC Danyl Strype

   • Nate Cull
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   @natecull @beadsland I saw a web video once about slanted political spectrum charts. Maybe this is similar?
   http://qttr.at/1zom
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2017 23:43:12 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Nate Cull
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     @natecull @beadsland do Douglas and Wildavsky also dismiss climate change and peak oil and other facts of science that greenies talk about?
   • Nate Cull (natecull@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 01:35:46 UTC Nate Cull

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     @beadsland If you try to have 'individualism without egalitarianism', you end up with heirarchy! 'Some are more equal than others'!

     And in practice, that's the problem with libertarianism: it's not 'one person, vote' but 'one dollar, one vote'. So it rapidly reconstructs a strong power gradient... a social hierarchy.

     Danyl Strype repeated this.
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 05:31:50 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Nate Cull
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     @beadsland @natecull I find #politicalcompass.org more useful and neutral than any of the charts discussed in that video though
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 05:32:56 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nate Cull
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     @natecull @beadsland ... and definitely more useful than the heavily slanted left/ right spectrum used in news media politics discussions
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 05:35:10 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nate Cull
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     @natecull @beadsland ... which tends to put the label "left" on parties like NZ Labour (economically centre-right, moderately authoritarian)
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 05:36:08 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nate Cull
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     @natecull @beadsland ... allowing them to put the "centre" somewhere between the centre-right and far-right, and dismiss the actual "left"
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 08:25:04 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Nate Cull
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     @beadsland @natecull what "political camp" would you say the creators of #politicalcompass.org are part of?
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 11:02:03 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nate Cull
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     @clacke @natecull @beadsland I'm not sure why you'd think #politicalcompass.org was [right]-libertarian, but look at:
     http://qttr.at/1zp5
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 11:16:09 UTC Danyl Strype

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     • Nate Cull
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     @clacke @natecull @beadsland see also this on Hitler and Nazis in #politicalcompass.org FAQ, very neutral I thought
     http://qttr.at/1zp6
   • Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2017 11:46:18 UTC Danyl Strype

     • Hallå Kitteh
     • Nate Cull
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     @beadsland @clacke @natecull Clan McGillicuddy forever! Long live Bonny Prince Geoffy!