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1. 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jul-2018 13:08:29 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

   • Eugen 💀
   • Brandon Hall

   @Gargron @bthall Relying on that promise is indeed the important part. Though there are legal ways to ensure they will keep their promise (if they wish to do so).

   Not sure I agree with the other points though. While those qualities are the case with mastodons unique approach to decentralization I dont see them as inherent qualities of decentralization.

   I would also say that the reduced cost argument isnt valid to mastodon or virtually any decentralized system. In fact due to additional overhead if anything the overall costs are increased. The difference is just that the cost are spread out between the servers so the burden isnt on any one person/group.

   • infinite love ⴳ (trwnh@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jul-2018 13:16:48 UTC infinite love ⴳ

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     • Eugen 💀
     • Brandon Hall

     @freemo @Gargron @bthall
     > the burden isn't on any one person/group

     which is the entire point, really. hosting a few thousand users, not too bad. hosting 2 billion? how do you do that without needing a ton of money?

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   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jul-2018 13:18:01 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Eugen 💀
     • infinite love ⴳ
     • Brandon Hall

     @trwnh @Gargron @bthall Agreed. Obviously I can recognize the benefits of decentralization. Just didnt agree with the specific bullet points listed.

   • Brandon Hall (bthall@scholar.social)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jul-2018 13:51:50 UTC Brandon Hall

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     • Eugen 💀

     @freemo @Gargron This discussion has highlighted for me an interesting side thing to consider: the matter of de facto centralization amidst the use of systems that permit decentralization. To what degree is a decentralization-permitting system such as Mastodon better than those that do not permit decentralization if significant shares of the population using that system use only one host? At that point, the bucket's leaky, but it's still a bucket. & Maybe that's good?

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   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jul-2018 14:10:16 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Eugen 💀
     • Brandon Hall

     @bthall @Gargron I've been doing research in the decentralization space for a lot of my career. This topic is of interest to me as well.