@ChrisWere

I usually refer to Ubuntu as "Bunty", its not the users or OS I have an issue with, Ubuntu as an OS is ok, it is a good base to build and has more resources thrown at it than any other Debian based OS I can think of

The issue I have with Bunty is the tendency to "Fork and Drop" at what seems like a moments notice.

Oh and then there was that time 17.10 screwed up laptops that had Insyde based bios

Even with that I still recommend Ubuntu Mate for some setups and users

@lynnesbian