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1. Adonay Felipe Nogueira (adfeno@ecodigital.social)'s status on Thursday, 10-Jan-2019 17:21:21 UTC Adonay Felipe Nogueira

   • Mike Gerwitz
   • Shamar
   • ( hellekin )

   @Shamar @how I think that it would get better if we free our #JavaScript according to #LibreJS and use #ProgressiveEnhancement, so most stuff can be done without #JS, even forms, no need for #CAPTCHA. See https://mikegerwitz.com/2017/06/Don-t-force-me-to-use-your-tools-on-the-Web (by @mikegerwitz ) and also combine http://ezinearticles.com/?Captchas-Considered-Harmful---Why-Captchas-Are-Bad-And-How-You-Can-Do-Better&id=1104207 with server-side scripting and #CSS.

   • Mike Gerwitz (mikegerwitz@social.mikegerwitz.com)'s status on Friday, 11-Jan-2019 03:39:05 UTC Mike Gerwitz

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     • Shamar
     @shamar @adfeno Ironically, the ezine link you posted greets me with:
     
     "It appears that you are using Tor anonymizing software
     
     No Problem! We just need you to enter a Captcha so we can confirm that you are a person and not a bot."
     
     Which is non-functional for me, presumably because I'm not running JS. I just loaded via the Internet Archive.
     
     Some sites use CAPTCHAs even for read-only pages, presumably to try to thwart scraping, DOS attacks, and the like. (I fundamentally disagree with this practice.)
     
     There are many other JS practices that need to change as well, both for security and user freedom. I highlighted what I perceive as many of the major issues a few years ago at LibrePlanet:
     
     https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/collection/restore-online-freedom/
     
     In particular, I'm really hoping that someone will take up the issue of code signing and the ability to replace specific scripts with user-defined scripts (the latter may be best implemented in LibreJs considering the level of granularity it offers in script detection).
     Adonay Felipe Nogueira repeated this.