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1. 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2019 08:47:01 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

   I think with all the non-english posts around here we need to make a few new rules in order to keep things safe for moderation and keeo the timeline interesting. I would like everyones feedback.

   1) You must be able to speak english fluently enough to interact with english moderators and english commentors

   2) You must have a STEM interest in being here (though not required to post on any one subject).

   Also note it is still very hard to moderate non-english posts for now im using a translator but it makes my job MUCH slower...

   Would you say these two points apply to you.

   • Rob G. (designrg@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2019 08:59:07 UTC Rob G.

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     @freemo Those are good, thank you.

     The only thing I would add is spell out the STEM acronym, as people might have found QOTO simply from it's prominent position on joinmastodon.org's Instance list / Join page - and not realize that this is not a typical, general audience focused server.

     Found a nice visual one.

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   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2019 08:59:51 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Rob G.

     @design_RG Agrevvnlghlvedrfghichjgdecffrghfrdirlvfutcrnjhdle
     , where should we spell it out though?

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2019 09:24:40 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • Rob G.

     @design_RG Im not sure if that text is autogenerated or not. I think gargron hand picked the text from our about page

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2019 09:27:45 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • Rob G.

     @design_RG Yea I can give it a go. Though keep in mind in the past it took months for them to act when we first tried to get listed

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2019 09:31:23 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • Rob G.

     @design_RG Yea those would be some easy changes we can do, ill change it there today.

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2019 09:56:30 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • gueux

     @gueux Well no, at the moment you can make public toots and replies in any language or subject.

     But we expect you to be here for STEM interest. That means you at least interact occasionally with STEM posts, share STEM interests, etc.

     We do not enforce topics but we want people to be here for their interest in STEM as there are ther more suited general purpose instances otherwise.

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2019 10:14:58 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • gueux

     @gueux We have a 65,000 limit. You do not need to be an expert in STEM it only needs to be something you want to be around and talk about.

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2019 10:21:32 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • gueux

     @gueux You as well.

   • sda (sda@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2019 12:30:08 UTC sda

     • Rob G.

     @design_RG @freemo
     Matter of fact, that charter may give an idea or two you hadn't thought of. Obviously, usenet was a different animal, but still...

     http://twovoyagers.com/metamorphosis/faq/faqi.html

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   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2019 12:30:58 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • sda
     • Rob G.

     @sda

     Requiring an english translation be provided isnt a bad idea really.. Worth discussion.

     @design_RG

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2019 12:47:08 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • ｍｎｇｒｉｆ :kentucky:

     @mngrif and what of the people who arent learners? If we dont require people to have an interest in STEM (be learners as you say) then why state it as a purpose at all?

     I generally have agreed with your sentiment until now and that has been our stance. But it is at the point where we got a **lot** os users who just see it as a replacement for twitter with no interest for the ideals or purpose of the instance as a place for those with STEM interests.

     Moreover, do you really want to have to moderate by needing to hand type text from images in a foreign language to translate it to see if it is an advertisement or not.

     In the end, if we dont ensure we have high quality people here, if nothing else, then the timeline looks like a spam folder very quicklya nd would drive away our quality users leaving only the spam.

     Personally i can see both sides.

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 22-Nov-2019 20:19:53 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • ｍｎｇｒｉｆ :kentucky:

     @mngrif I agree, there is no perfect solution. The question is, what is the best solution. By the looks of things your going to be a mod soon, so that means youll be voting on and guiding these sorts of decisions with the other three of us.