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  1. 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 14:15:10 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
    • sda

    @sda Sharing unpublished non-peer-reviewed studies in opposition to much higher quality studies that show the opposite is **not** science.

    Moreover sharing this sort of wreckless propaganda puts children and people in danger. It is reckless and irresponsible of you IMO.

    In conversation Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 14:15:10 UTC from qoto.org permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 14:21:52 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • sda

      @sda First off, link to the pubmed studies you feel were peer reviewed, in which case if they were we will see so. Not all studies on pubmed however are peer reviewed.

      In conversation Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 14:21:52 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 14:34:12 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • sda

      @sda That link does not go to an article related to the link you posted.

      In conversation Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 14:34:12 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 14:50:53 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • sda

      @sda Can you please link to the actual study published in a peer reviewed paper then.

      In conversation Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 14:50:53 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 15:30:56 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • sda

      @sda Again can you link me to the actual study that you posted in your original link as it appears on pubmed.

      1) you have yet to show that your original link was ever posted on pubmed at all

      2) if it was it does not garuntee it was peer reviewed (most journals all, but not all articles all, it is labeled as such)

      3) even if it was peer reviewed before you draw any conclusions you should be reading the actual article including its conclusions. Do you really think a presentation that looks like it was done in paint is sufficient for this

      In conversation Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 15:30:56 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 16:26:17 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • sda

      @sda You miss the point. I never claimed peer-reivew makes it valid. Peer review is a process which explains the criticisims of a group of educated people against any paper, which then eithe rpasses or fails.

      What matters is **not** simply if a paper passes for fails peer review, that is nonsense. What matters is if when reading the peer review and what those criticisms are you can determine if the conclusion of the peer review is warranted or not.

      In conversation Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 16:26:17 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 16:29:48 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • sda

      @sda Anyone who wishes to, it is part of the public record usually. On most journals any scientist interested can subscribe to the peer review process and read it as it takes place. This is usually archived somewhere.

      In conversation Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 16:29:48 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 16:40:08 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • sda

      @sda Depends on the journal in question. I am on the lists for JACM peer review myself but that doesnt apply here. One reason i asked for the link to thestudy itself is so i could find the peer-review status of it if there is one.

      In conversation Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 16:40:08 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 16:56:49 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • sda

      @sda yea but point is the list is different for every journal. They usually mention in the publication of the paper what journal group it was posted through

      In conversation Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 16:56:49 UTC permalink

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