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1. 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 15:38:47 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

   Did we seriously just get our first "vaccines cause autism" post on QOTO... sad day. Lets hope this doesnt become a trend and we keep having real science here.

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 23-Nov-2019 16:40:24 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • sda

     @sda Oh thank gosh, I was worried for a second :)

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2019 14:26:58 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • sda
     • Xyfdi Horton

     @sda

     The world is filled with many colors, black, white, and every shade inbetween.

     I prefer to not see the world in black and white, or grey, i prefer to see each color for what it is, and when the color is not known, to admit that as well.

     @xyfdi

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2019 14:33:43 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • sda
     • Xyfdi Horton

     @sda

     No, you didnt provide "real studies" you provided a power point presentation with pictures from what they claimed to be real studies with no links to any actual studies with which me, or anyone else could use to evaluate the facts.

     Since you presented no "real studies" or anything of substance I relied on the thousands of studies i already read on the topic which came to a solid conclusion already.

     Keep in mind this is no different than how I wouild treat a flat earther. If they had a real experiment or study to back up their claim I'd happily read it and almost certainly inevitably debunk it, or atleast learn something new and strange about physics. But should a flat earther fail to provide any such information I would otherwise result to my default, and well established, determination that the earth is round.

     @xyfdi

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2019 14:59:34 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • sda
     • Xyfdi Horton

     @sda

     1) I specifically asked you for links to the study, dont assume what I did, I was unable to find them nor did i read or see any links, which is why i **asked** you for them

     2) I said nothing of the sort. What I did say was that every study I did read was flat earth quality, though very few even exist. Since you did not provide any studies that I could read that might have been quality I presumed that is likely the case here as well, since I was not given the means to determine otherwise.

     Please stop with the hyperbole and misrepresentation of what I said or did.

     @xyfdi

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2019 15:07:17 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • sda
     • Xyfdi Horton

     @sda

     Also to be clear, since you seem to wish to misrepresent me when you dont agree with me...

     I do **not** lump every study that shows risk as being absurd. Only the ones that are actually absurd (or in this case are a screen shot in a power point presentation with no legible link to a source).

     There are a few real risk factors with vaccines, allergic reaction to those with egg allergies are a good one and presents a real risk factor that can even result in death.

     Autism however has been shown with far more studies than were ever needed, to be unrelated to vaccines.

     @xyfdi

   • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2019 15:10:31 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

     • sda
     • Xyfdi Horton

     @sda
     
     Thats a very weak excuse. Anyone who sees the power point presentation can clearly see that was the intended purpose, particularly considering the cherry picked nature of the screen shots.

     Moreover I researched the source of the powerpoint before i commented, as I tend to do (unlike your suggestion that i didnt even read it). The source is one that routinely takes the stance regarding drawing links between autism and other diseases and vaccines without ever providing the counter evidence in a fair or balanced way.

     @xyfdi