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  1. 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 18:26:26 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
    • Casey Rollins :verified: 🔵

    @realcaseyrollins When was the last time someone got surgery for the purpose of cosplaying? This seems rather ignrant and borderline hateful.

    In conversation Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 18:26:26 UTC from qoto.org permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 19:50:45 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Casey Rollins :verified: 🔵

      @realcaseyrollins

      Well borderline, yea.

      Telling someone who goes through surgery and a lot of ridicule daily to help address painful identity problems that they are "just dressing up" or engaging in "cosplay" would be an extremely hurtful thing for any transperson to hear.

      In conversation Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 19:50:45 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 19:58:44 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Casey Rollins :verified: 🔵

      @realcaseyrollins In that case your post could have used those details.

      Generally I wouldnt consider someone who only wears a dress as "transitioning", but I also dont find it important enough to give them a hard time if they use the word to refer to themselves. Its mostly just not an issue worth creating drama over for me.

      But your view is in line with how some trans people feel as well, that people who havent undergone surgery or hormone therapy arent trans by definition.

      In conversation Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 19:58:44 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 19:59:35 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Casey Rollins :verified: 🔵

      @realcaseyrollins And sorry I misunderstood. Like I said it was the first post that came across as *borderline* hateful. I'm glad you clarified what you meant. I think the original post just left out some important details then.

      In conversation Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 19:59:35 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 20:15:59 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Casey Rollins :verified: 🔵

      @realcaseyrollins Its a delicate line to toe. Fromt he christian angle of it all I have no issue with someone saying "my religion doesnt allow me to be gay/trans/etc" or if they think they might go to hell for it. Though it would be an issue if someone says "my rreligion doesnt allow YOU to be trans" or if someone felt the need to tell a trans person they were going to hell.

      So far it seems to be a line youve walked. I have never seen you attack a trans person though you have admited that it is considered a sin to you according to religion. I think that is an acceptable expression even if i dont agree with it.

      In conversation Saturday, 11-Jan-2020 20:15:59 UTC permalink

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