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1. Tagomago (tagomago@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 15:31:13 UTC Tagomago

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   • Chris Trottier

   @atomicpoet Maybe it exists (maybe!), but maybe it's lost. That happens a lot. We tend to assume some kind of thoroughness in these cases, but once you leave behind the first line of top classic releases, sloppiness is the norm.

   • Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 15:31:14 UTC Chris Trottier

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     • Tagomago

     @tagomago It would be shocking if no tape was available because this album was released on a major label. Presumably, a reel should be safe in a vault.

     Now I realize that album also hasn't been re-issued since 1964. So who knows what's going on.

   • Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 15:31:15 UTC Chris Trottier

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     • Tagomago

     @tagomago Anyway, I stand by the notion that, if you're using any kind of analog as a source, go with tape.

     Vinyl rips should only be used if tape is not an option. Even then, it should be acknowledged that something was lost with the vinyl rip.

     Not even mint vinyl can replace the fidelity that comes with tape.

   • Tagomago (tagomago@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 15:31:15 UTC Tagomago

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     • Chris Trottier

     @atomicpoet >Vinyl rips should only be used if tape is not an option

     Sure! I think that's what happened.

     Checked the album you mentioned. No CD. I don't imagine whoever is doing this job going to the market and buying records to make it sound better. Feels more like a quick (outsourced) bureaucratic job made by some guy working with whatever they got in the big corp vaults, reference after reference. Maybe they even think this is good because youngsters can go and say "Ohhh, vinyl :blobaww:" 🤷♂️

   • Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 15:31:18 UTC Chris Trottier

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     • Tagomago

     @tagomago But I'm telling you, in each case I've heard vinyl rips, I've gone to Discogs to see if any of it is particularly rare.

     Usually, it's not rare. Here's an example of one I heard a few days ago. I can buy near mint copies right now for cheap.

     I know this was a lazy rip because whoever did the uploading couldn't even be bothered to scan the entire album cover. https://peerverse.space/i/web/post/446425424391237784

   • Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 15:31:19 UTC Chris Trottier

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     Why do vinyl rips to suck? Let me count the ways:

     1. It ain't analog
     2. Surface noise galore
     3. Dynamic range is horrible

     And this is happening with a lot of historical recordings on streaming services!

   • Tagomago (tagomago@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 15:31:19 UTC Tagomago

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     • Chris Trottier

     @atomicpoet I've heard excellent vinyl rips though. Depends on the source and equipment used, and I guess in those cases it's being done cheaply and or without any decent source, as a last resort. Many old recordings only survive on retail formats, the master is gone.

   • Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jun-2022 15:31:20 UTC Chris Trottier

     Yet another vinyl rip on a streaming service today 😑

     This is why the myth of vinyl's superiority is frustrating.

     To uploaders: if the recording is analog, rip it from reel-to-reel tape. If it's digital, use the lossless source.