Notices by XMPP server (xmpp@mastodon.social), page 3

@LPS @strypey @danyspin97
This is a XMPP client, but it does not have the option of selecting a server for registration

@strypey @danyspin97
I mean e2e encryption.

@strypey @danyspin97 I'm talking about the fact that the Matrix can not be run on a open public server with a large number of people

@strypey @danyspin97
Web clients can not have secure e2e encryption.For Android, a good "Conversion Legacy" client, for iphone will soon exist Xabber

@strypey @danyspin97
The largest of servers Matrix.org Even the developers say that they have more than 50% of all users on Matrix.org I think they are underestimate and there Matrix.org all 80%. The largest server of the matrix is 2 000 users (2017). The largest XMPP server is 20,000 user online (jabbim.com) , XMPP.JP (10 000 online ), Jabber.ru (8000 online) and etc..
Current time all network Matrix size = one big XMPP server

@strypey @danyspin97
The largest array of servers. Even the developers say that they have more than 50% of all users on Matrix.org I think they are underestimate and there Matrix.org all 80%. The largest server of the matrix is 2 000 users (2017). The largest XMPP server is 20,000 user online (jabbim.com) , XMPP.JP (10 000 online ), Jabber.ru (8000 online) and etc..
Current time all network Matrix size = one big XMPP server

@strypey @danyspin97 80% use web registration. 20% use the XMPP client registration

@danyspin97 @strypey
It's hard for me to argue when I see that the matrix servers are falling from the load of 100 people, when XMPP servers can withstand a load of 10,000 without difficulty every day.
This is the problem of the matrix protocol, which includes too many beautiful, but technically incorrect solutions.

@danyspin97 @strypey Matrix protocol problems are insufficient expandability and insufficient fault tolerance. XMPP is the industry standard in which it was added at the creation stage. The matrix protocol will die if it goes beyond the sandbox or becomes like XMPP Bad servers Matrix, these are protocol errors, not server-side errors.

@danyspin97 @strypey
On the matrix.org server in 2017 there were 2000 online users. On the server xmpp.jp every day about 8000 online users, This is only one XMPP server. Total XMPP servers more than 10000. The matrix has 100 times less users than open XMPP.

@danyspin97 @strypey
On the matrix.org server in 2017 there were 2000 online users. On the server xmpp.jp every day about 8 8000 users, This is only one XMPP server. Total XMPP servers more than 10000 thousand. The matrix has 100 times less users than open XMPP.

@danyspin97 @strypey @TheOuterLinux \
On the matrix.org server in 2017 there were 2000 online users. On the server xmpp.jp every day about 8 8000 users, This is only one XMPP server. Total XMPP servers more than 10000 thousand. The matrix has 100 times less users than open XMPP.

@danyspin97 @strypey @TheOuterLinux
Now XMPP servers can withstand millions of users online. I doubt that the matrix servers will be able to repeat this.We can not run the matrix server, because they do not work with high loads.
The XMPP network is overloaded by more than a thousand times compared to the matrix. Matrix servers do not withstand and 0.01% of the load of XMPP servers. > 2 000 000 XMPP node vs 2000 Matrix node

@strypey @danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux
- The protocol error of the matrix, then this is not XMPP. The matrix protocol can be described as an extension of XMPP
- The matrix protocol will sooner or later split into several incompatible protocols. There is no single right solution for all tasks. In XMPP, this is solved with the help of extensions, which are criticized in the Matrix.
- If everything is included in the protocol of the Matrix, it will swell and become clumsy.

This is only part...

@strypey @danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux
XMPP clients do not have financial support comparable to the financial support Matrix.

@strypey @danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux

If so, I would change my mind. Now there is no one Matrix server capable of withstanding the load comparable to the XMPP loads. The matrix protocol includes erroneous solutions thrown out of XMPP.

@strypey @danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux
Replacement of Telegram should at least imply stable working matrix servers. The server software of the matrix is bad.

@danyspin97 @strypey @TheOuterLinux
The matrix has many shortcomings before the XMPP, without obvious advantages. The only advantage of the matrix is the availability of money to develop a client.

@thrrgilag @Goffi Developing an XMPP-compatible solution, you get a users network XMPP. There are many social networks, but there is one social network in XMPP.

In addition, XMPP is an extensible real-time protocol. Servers are great for high loads. You may be surprised, but XMPP uses Google WhatsApp and Facebook

@ojbr ejabberd + postgresql