@snow Science, Technology Engineering & Math
Notices by ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org), page 21
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๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 15:01:07 UTC ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ -
๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:58:05 UTC ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ As long as the change history is preserved in the toots through some mechanism your good.
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๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:57:12 UTC ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ They are, its the default :)
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๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:55:27 UTC ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ I know Star Trek : TNG anywhere, this is perfect lolol
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Meachamus Prime โ๏ธ๐จโ๐ฉโ๐งโ๐ฆ๐บ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฅ (meachamusprime@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:53:54 UTC Meachamus Prime โ๏ธ๐จโ๐ฉโ๐งโ๐ฆ๐บ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ฅ "I will not sacrifice the [STEM]. We've made too many compromises already, too many retreats. They invade our space, and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds, and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no farther!"
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๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:54:52 UTC ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ I dont have the time to continue with this conversation, but thank you for your thoughts. I will end with this.
You do find it among apes, as well as birds. Anytime you have an exchange of resources you have capitalism.
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Snowโ๏ธ (snow@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:52:43 UTC Snowโ๏ธ @freemo So, they are usually annoying and aggressive. (since the original purpose is piss off people)
And they love to claim it as: freedom of speech.
But in my theory, they explain the highest level of selfish and self-absorption: I want to explain the world is MY own way!!! Science? BS! The feelings of others? BS!
And they are very likely to get a severe mental illness. I don't sympathize with it.
If they're trolling and bullying a lot, I have my own ways to turn them be totally mentals. ๐
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๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:52:48 UTC ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ Can't argue any of those points really.
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Samuel B. Johnson (sbjohnsrpi@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:51:46 UTC Samuel B. Johnson @snow @freemo Iโd take a different approach.
I posit that earnestly believing the earth is flat while having the ability to use internet technology is an impossible position. Itโs not just incomprehensible, itโs literally impossible.
Therefore, anyone espousing flat earth beliefs is simply a troll and should be treated as such: ignored as long as possible, but blocked if their continued presence hinders anyone else here whoโs earnestly seeking the truth.
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namark (namark@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:51:04 UTC namark @retiredguru @freemo I would suggest not basing the wording on who they are but rather how they behave in qoto. Just like accounts that are primarily aimed at advertising goods and services, account that are primarily aimed at spreading nonsensical claims on nature of things with no basis in any scientific theory could be disallowed.
If someone is a "flat earther" or an "icosahedron mooner" or whatever, but refrains from spamming their beliefs in qoto, and otherwise engages in meaningful conversations/interactions I see no reason to force them to leave.
On the other hand if someone is a professor in some respected university, but decides to troll qoto with bogus theories just to demonstrate their superior knowledge and debate skills, there is no reason to let them stay.
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๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:51:52 UTC ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ I agree with this
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๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:36:28 UTC ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ @snow I can see that being true
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Snowโ๏ธ (snow@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:29:14 UTC Snowโ๏ธ I think I can share a set of flat earther characteristics with you.
They are unfit people of modern science.
It's about they want to use the flat earth theory to express their hated towards modern science.
There are a part of humans, maybe a lot, they are totally discomfort about we use science to explain the world, they want to use their own fairy tales to understand world, they did it for thousands of years. Until the Age of Enlightenment. Since that, they can't do it anymore.
And they can't change their cognitive function, it's very likely is born this way.
They are quite useless in the modern society. In words of modern society: individuals are very likely to get/got schizophrenia.
Human was had an open mind for their BS(believe the earth is flat) hundreds of years ago, but now, don't have the space, so they are angry.
But they can piss off people like you for bitching, someone can adapt for the worldview of modern science. It's not about they believe the earth is flat or not, it's about talking BS to piss off people.
So you are an obvious target of them.
In my theory, share the screenshot can let him feel like he is totally piece of shit, then he is going to shut up.
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๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:27:39 UTC ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ @puzzl Ahh I think I understand now
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๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:23:08 UTC ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ The idea could be workable if expanded on, yea
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๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:20:42 UTC ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ @retiredguru The line would be this: You must be either a STEM professional, student, or enthusiast to have a local account.
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๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:09:18 UTC ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ Pretty much me anytime I program anything.
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๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:05:53 UTC ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ Thats what I mentioned in my post. I also mentioned why that isnt helpful in this case.
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๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:04:32 UTC ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ @puzzl A flat-earther is a person who beleives the earth is a flat disc and the sun and moon are really close to the earth, and gravity is a myth...
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๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2020 14:01:21 UTC ๐ Dr. Freemo :jpf: ๐ณ๐ฑ @retiredguru I tend to agree with you in principle. Its why QOTO doesnt silence instances and is very liberal (non-restrictive) in our federation policy. We only defederate in very specific cases.
We are talking here about a local user on QOTO. QOTO sells itself on the about page as a STEM instance. So to me there is a question on what that means. If we allow anti-STEM people on our instance then how can we call us something we are not. But it is rarely enforced as a rule, I dont want to say who is STEM enough and who isnt, but this was also at an extream. Like I said spamming 80 posts of very clear anti-STEM conspiracy stuff.. all 100% flat earth stuff.
I think there needs to be a higher standard for our local users than there is for who we federate. But i also want to get in a policy where as long as your interest is STEM, you are welcome here even if its contrary to the majority.