Notices by Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se), page 109
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Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 14:35:06 UTC
Danyl Strype
@xil sounds like you have much more practical experience with this than me. I change nothing on my router or PC firewall -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 14:27:06 UTC
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@lnxw48a1 @rysiek my Dad's union office used run their own mailserver (on Windows). Now they use Office365 :( -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 14:25:56 UTC
Danyl Strype
@xil so doesn't your browser need port 80 open to send out that initial HTTP request? -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 14:24:49 UTC
Danyl Strype
@kat cool. What about searching for torrents? Still need #TPB for that ;) Although #FrostWire has built-in search (not sure how it works) -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 14:20:43 UTC
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@xil the server can't do anything until it gets the request, right? -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 14:19:48 UTC
Danyl Strype
@xil but if it's a browser initiates an HTTP request to a webserver, doesn't that need an open port to go out? -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 14:18:05 UTC
Danyl Strype
@xil my understanding is telecos wanted to be able to charge extra for more reliable packet delivery, which only #FarceBook etc could afford -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 14:16:06 UTC
Danyl Strype
@xil hmm, my TCP/IP networking knowledge is clearly a bit rusty ;) It has been almost 20 years since I studied it -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 14:13:09 UTC
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@xil for more info check out http://qttr.at/1y56 -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 14:10:06 UTC
Danyl Strype
@xil that's why we need to fight for #NetNeutrality. That way it would be illegal for ISPs to do anything that limits normal net use -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 14:08:59 UTC
Danyl Strype
@xil how do HTTP queries get from your browser to web servers, to ask them to send your PC the page you clicked on? -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 14:01:05 UTC
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@xil closed by what? -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 13:59:40 UTC
Danyl Strype
@xil I don't know much about port forwarding, but AFAIK if you haven't blocked port 80 on your machine or your router, it's open -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 13:57:16 UTC
Danyl Strype
@xil which is why almost all net services became web-based (or "Port 80 pollution" as the greybeards call it) -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 13:56:40 UTC
Danyl Strype
@xil little bit of history, in the 90s corporate firewalls tended to block all ports except for 80 (and maybe a handful of others) -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 13:55:33 UTC
Danyl Strype
@xil if you can use a web browser on port 80, you can run a webserver on port 80 -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 13:54:45 UTC
Danyl Strype
@xil the problem with that is most internet stuff is 2-way by design. Port 80 needs both incoming and outgoing packets for a browser to work -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 13:52:20 UTC
Danyl Strype
@xil of course if we replaced corporate ISPs with customer-owned coops, we could protect against any price gouging or user limiting -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 13:51:38 UTC
Danyl Strype
@xil if everyone started self-hosting using PCs in their own buildings, ISPs would just up connection or traffic prices to compensate -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2017 13:50:14 UTC
Danyl Strype
@xil otherwise, the only reason I can see for ISPs to limit users is to keep their own upstream costs manageable. Mostly they're on our side