Notices by Xerz 💗 [UNMOVED] (espectalll@mstdn.io), page 12

People being surprised that Java is fast in 2018 is really surprising tbh

@besserwisser also Java is not surprising either, JVM is really optimized and it's been pretty fast for a while on servers

@besserwisser it joke

@morguldir holy cow Servant is awesome

@morguldir > Show filters panel

oh look I'm retarded

@morguldir I can find them in the repos, but not looking up in the benchmark tables?

@morguldir I can't find them in the repos, but not looking up in the benchmark tables?

@freakazoid np~ :blobcat:

also yes, Node and Ruby are just bad memes

@freakazoid You can't write your application in every language and see which one gives you the best tradeoffs, you have to know in advance to make a good choice lol.

Which is why benchmarks exist. Shit.

@freakazoid Benchmarks is a kind of statistics lol

Anyway, for a benchmark, this is pretty good. It compares a shitton of stuff, it does so in many examples, one of which is intended to be as close to "real" production code as possible. And of course it does so while telling you which hardware has been used, and with the complete source code of everything (https://github.com/TechEmpower/FrameworkBenchmarks)

@bgta todo mentira, son los pacíficos y no nacionalistas españoles de bien los que están aterrados de los violentos nazionalistas catalufos que vandalizan coches de la Guardia Civil o algo así 🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸

I've just noticed that there's no Haskell tests either. So no Erlang, no Elixir, no PyPy, no Haskell. Sad.

@thanatos @Vexatos You can do the same with any other language, or even go further. For instance, you can have a Java OS or even a Java processor which uses JVM bytecode as its instructions (there's been a few, and I think Qualcomm processors have some!). So it's rather not a language thing (not even depending on whenever it's compiled in the traditional sense!) but an *implementation* thing.

@thanatos @Vexatos Basically, C tries to minimize the friction of having a runtime, by making it small enough, with the least changes, as readily available as possible. That's why most devs don't even know that there's such a thing as C runtimes. But oh boy they are, and they can surprise you in peculiar ways if you don't know that.

@thanatos @Vexatos (just like Windows also comes with some version of .NET btw, and I don't think you're complaining about that even when stuff like C++ software depends on it)

@thanatos @Vexatos (just like Windows also comes with some version of .NET btw, and I don't think you're complaining about that even when st
ff like C++ software depends on it)

@thanatos @Vexatos First off, you're already giving me the fact that you're worrying for a specific OS and processor. It turns out Windows has its own C runtime, it's just that it always comes with the OS.

@thanatos @Vexatos First off, you're already giving me the fact that you're worring for a specific OS and processor. It turns out Windows has its own C runtime, it's just that it always comes with the OS.